Originally posted by zgendron:
Originally posted by 99SESPORT:

I got married not because of my innate desire to do so (although it was there and I did want to get married). Rather, I got married because I met my wife, fell in love, and wanted to raise a family with her. I got married to have a mate, somebody to fill me in, smooth my rough spots etc etc etc. She was that person.




And why is it so difficult to believe that this is all the gay community wants too?

Is adopted childen not raising a family (if so desired). By this logic, do you believe that people who are incapable of bearing children should not be married?






Man, you brought up a lot of topics here.

People who are inadequate or cannot bear children have no, or should have no knowledge of this fact until they are married, and then there are all sorts of ways to work around that. Adoption of course is probably the best because there is a great need out there.

Homosexuals on the other hand are living a life of sin. They have chosen to specifically pick and choose verses from the Bible. There are those here that say that it isn't mentioned much, that it's just a small thing, 10% or less, but the point is, is that the Bible mentions it specifically as being a sin. It is unnatural, for 1)obvious reasons and 2) because God said so.

On top of that, the "gay" community may want to be in love too, but guess what, there are absolute truths, and one of those is that homosexuality is a sin. I don't care what anybody else says, it's not a matter of opinion, it's pure and simple fact, it is a sin. There are truths in this world, and those truths expand to cover all human existence.

Our country started out on the right foot. Most higher education schools were started to raise ministers. The constitution and Bill of Rights were based on truths set in stone in scripture, the Bible. Our founding fathers made it clear that without God and without the truths in the Bible, our country would be indeed going down the downward spiral to a deep dark grave. (I'm searching for the quotes that I have heard and read, hopefully I'll be able to find them, if not, sorry, skip that particular segment of my argument). Anyway, our country began to decline as everybody came in and thought the country was there's and nobody elses. As education rose and material wealth rose, individualism sprung, and it has led to it being said that there are absolutely no absolute truths (hmmmm, ponder that for a while). So, of course without the truths to back the laws and boundaries up, everything goes crazy, as we can see. We have men going after children, we have adultery taking over marriage, swing parties, divorce, child abuse, destruction of our families, pornography being portrayed not only in R rated movies anymore, but also on TV, etc etc etc. Our world has lost the notion that boundaries in our lives need to exist and have come to the conclusion that there are no ultimate truths.

Homosexuals are one of those groups, and after this what comes next? Will we okay NAMBLA? Search on it if you don't know what it is. Will we okay incest? Will rape be okayed? What will be allowed next?

By allowing the state to justify homosexual marriage, we are asking that equal "rights" be spread to all the other sex acts. It begs the question, if I can't stop it with homosexuals, who am I to stop a man from getting a Marriage License with his Dog, or polygamy from becoming the next big thing. Where does it end? Somebody must draw the line, and that's what I see happening, today. California said STOP and Massachusetts said CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT a possibility and the President and other areas of government are saying NO MORE to homosexual marriage. Unfortunately they are giving an inch with the civil unions, and what comes if you give someobody an inch, they take a mile.

All I'm saying is that homosexuals can act any way they want to, they can do whatever they want. Comparing it to women's rights or civil rights are like comparing apples and oranges. Every human has the right to vote, and every human has the right to be a human, but...

...everybody does not have the right to do as they please and expect the government to give them their justification they so desperately long for.

That's right, that's exactly what I said. Everybody does not have the right to do exactly what they want, and everybody does not have the right to get justification from the government. Women's lib way back when was on the right track, women deserve the right to vote, it's not a way of life, it's who they are. Civil rights, the blacks are no different than the white people! Right on!! It sure did take long enough!! Homosexuals, though, are completely different. They are living in sin and cannot expect my government to justify it just so they can say YEAH, LOOK WE ARE quote in quote "LEGAL". Again, I say that the government is not who I would be worrying about justifying what I'm doing if I was them. There is a higher power that we have all forgotten about. End of story.


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