Yeah, honda base 4cyls (comparing to say a zetec, ford's current base 4cyl I believe or atleast last year's, and base in contour)=not enough power. I'd take my engine in a car that weighs as much as a civic any day over a civic with stock engine. Even the civic Si doesn't have any balls, my engine has same torque as it, though it does have 30hp more. Friend of mine had one, it was nice once you hit ~5k rpm, but not very impressive until that point.
