VTEC is NOT used on all honda engines,, my mom's 02 civic doesn't have it. It's on the optional engines though. Hondas aren't crap, just a lot of them aren't tastefully done. If I was shopping used cars, I sure wouldn't buy a honda, they hold their value too well. They can still have problems,,, a contour can have the same/less problems when taken care of. I also prefer the contour over hondas that would have been in my price range when I bought my car as the contour is roomier and a better performer. But not all hondas suck,,, but they're certainly not the king of all cars as many honda drivers seem to think.


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