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well, i hate to say this, cuz i don't know much about it, but I'm pretty sure there are lots of good reasons. An oval speaker will distort more. Ask the experts, I"m sure they will tell you round is better!

No, an oval speaker will not distort more. The only thing limiting oval speakers is that most mfg don't offer high-end coaxs or seperates. A good quality oval speaker can be every bit as good as a round one. Ask the experts. :p And I don't mean your friend, if that's who you are referring to as an "expert".

a friend of mine got the Pioneer 3ways and doesn't really like them

i got sony explodes at the sony outlet near me for $49 a set...not bad for the price and they sound decent.
replace the front and rears for under a 100 bills.

Well, I do have some smart friends, national merrit honor students and what not, that know a lot about audio, but i'm not calling them the experts. I'm refering the the "expert" as an individual that has spent the past 20 years installing car audio with his own business, won first place at the spring break nationals last year, and is the only MB quart, zapco, and focal dealer in the area, plus much much more. This is the expert i'm refering to. :rolleyes:

That was who I was referring to. I've talked to installers who have been doing business since the days of the original a/d/s/ powerplates who didn't know much aside from installing a system and still held ridiculous beliefs like underpowering speakers is bad, and oval speakers aren't good, and caps are useful and a whole list of other common misconceptions. I have also talked to national competitors who didn't know the first thing about system/speaker design, but had the money to pay someone who did.

I guess my point is don't believe the hype. Much like your Focal/Quart are better than everything else comment is false, so is saying that oval speakers are not good.

Talk to the designers at KEF. I would consider them experts and they seem to like them and still use oval speakers in their flagship.

The brands you like are fine examples of top quality components, but if you think they are the best of the best, you are kidding yourself and so is the local installer.

i have these for sale soon! :p

Well I'd just like to say that 60% of the compitition winners at sound compitions are using zapco, so if they suck...then....well...yeah...and also, an oval speaker is not going to be able to reproduce the sound of a round speaker as well as a round speaker can....thats sort of common sense right? All guitar amps and other amps that directly produce music use round speakers

You're selling 'em, Tony?

I'm using them in my truck (Ubid - $29 ) and am quite pleased with them. I just need to give 'em some more power. They'll soon be getting a full 75w of Blue Thunder POWER!!!

This is pure BS. Maybe that is what you have been told and if so, I can only blame the people who told you this. Not once did I say they sucked. In fact, I think I praised them. But I can absolutely guarentee you that you would not hear a difference in SQ between an a/d/s/, PPI, Brax, McIntosh, Phoenix Gold, xtant, etc. and a zapco. They are all excellent amps, but the zapco is not the last word in amplifiers.

There will be a slight change in dispersion pattern with an oval speaker. Other than that, nothing limits it's performance.

Can you explain what guitar amps and other amps that directly reproduce music use round speakers has to do with this? I'm not sure I follow the logic, but let me attempt to make a comparison based on what I think you are saying.

The other day you mentioned that you were a musician and gifted with the ability to hear things that others can't. That's wonderful, nto many people can, or would, ever make that claim. Now based on your previous comment, your musical training has helped your ability to listen to finer points of music. Am I on target so far? And because musicians know what to listen for, they are better at choosing equipment then the average audio leyman like myself or SoundQ SVT, or 2Deep2 or possibly other national IASCA champs. And therefore, since their equipment is better and the better equipment uses round speakers, they must be superior. There are a couple of flaws to this logic. Most musicians put a priority on loudness rather than tonal or musical accuracy. Those that prefer the "classic" electric guitar sound use tube amps of all things to create it. So, if you buy into this, it means you also buy into the "warm" sound of tube amps are more accurate than a solid state amp argument, because some of the best guitar players around insist on using nothing but tubes. Also, since the dispersion pattern of the oval speaker is the only thing affected, horns for bass/mids/tweets must also be bad as the effect the dispersion pattern of the said speakers.

TonyD and SVT Colin, what kind of speakers are those? 5x7 plates? they look pretty nice, how much do you want for them? i think those would be perfect for my front doors! what 5x7s should i put in my rear doors? i can put up to 100 watts to em, and i have a 12" in the trunk, so i dont need to much bass - i love clean, crisp sound at high volumes and hate distortion. I listen to just about everything, so i need something really versatile. what do you all think?