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Re: headers #880154 02/25/04 04:35 AM
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 8,143 AZ I IonNinja Hard-core CEG'er
IonNinja Hard-core CEG'er I Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 8,143 AZ	the 'other' headers you refer to are not good in quality & just a copy of the MSDS according to previous posts...hence why nobody has them. MSDS is really your only reasonable choice it seems... IonNinja 2005 Saturn ION-2 Sedan 1996 Ford Contour GL - Collecting dust...Zetec project anyone?

Re: headers #880155 02/25/04 02:45 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 7,117 West Palm Beach, FL - Going to... T TourDeForce Hard-core CEG'er
TourDeForce Hard-core CEG'er T Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 7,117 West Palm Beach, FL - Going to...	Originally posted by SVT ST PETE: MSDS is the choice of CEGers and you'll be looking at about 5-10hp with other basic bolt-ons. Holly crap!! That's it???!! No more engine performance mods for me. Dollar per unit power is just too high! Just maybe some handling mods & paint.... Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.

Re: headers #880156 02/25/04 08:06 PM
Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 270 New Jersey P papadage_dup1 CEG\'er
papadage_dup1 CEG\'er P Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 270 New Jersey	The headers do make for a better gain on other bolt ons though, like an intake, catback, optimized TB, etc. 99 E1 SVT Black/Tan, MSDS Headers, SHO-Shop Y, BAT Intake, Opt. TB, UR Clutch/Flywheel, Quaife, B&M, Konis, GC Coilovers, Pulley, Mintex Pads, 17" MAS Italy Rogers, Nitto 215/45/17, Portmatch, 138K

Re: headers #880157 02/25/04 08:33 PM
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,975 Rockville, Maryland G GTO Pete Hard-core CEG'er
GTO Pete Hard-core CEG'er G Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,975 Rockville, Maryland	Originally posted by TourDeForce: Originally posted by SVT ST PETE: MSDS is the choice of CEGers and you'll be looking at about 5-10hp with other basic bolt-ons. Holly crap!! That's it???!! No more engine performance mods for me. Dollar per unit power is just too high! Just maybe some handling mods & paint.... AFAIK, no one on CEG has ever done a stock dyno and then an MSDS dyno to prove gains by adding MSDS headers. Look for one this spring though. Capitol CEG Classifieds Make an offer! 2005 GTO IBM - 337hp/336tq

Re: headers #880158 02/25/04 11:22 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 347 Ireland!!!!! R Ronan_dup1 CEG\'er
Ronan_dup1 CEG\'er R Joined: May 2003 Posts: 347 Ireland!!!!!	I did a before and after dyno with the MSDS, and if by stock dyno, not sure if you are referring to a stock tour just with headers and no other mods. Well my car at the time had cat by-pass/twin exit exhaust/induction kit (KKM - I know it might implode! Working on a K&N right now...) and I saw 10hp and 5 lbs/ft. TBH, I am very impressed with them, its not just the additional power (or the sound which is getting VERY loud but its still sezy) but its how it induces revs, its almost like fitting a new lighter flywheel. I think its because of exhaust scavenging? Anyways, I think they're great. 1996 Mondeo 24v 4-door twin janspeed stainless pipe cat by-pass Phase 2 RS bodykit 16" cosworth alloys K&N RU3530 SVT TB/UIM/LIM poly bushings konis/bat springs/bar Pioneer MSDS Indiglos P&P heads 2005 Mondeo Zetec Tdci

Re: headers #880159 02/25/04 11:49 PM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,508 The Ninth State E Ed98.5SVT Hard-core CEG'er
Ed98.5SVT Hard-core CEG'er E Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,508 The Ninth State	Originally posted by SVT ST PETE: Originally posted by TourDeForce: Originally posted by SVT ST PETE: MSDS is the choice of CEGers and you'll be looking at about 5-10hp with other basic bolt-ons. Holly crap!! That's it???!! No more engine performance mods for me. Dollar per unit power is just too high! Just maybe some handling mods & paint.... AFAIK, no one on CEG has ever done a stock dyno and then an MSDS dyno to prove gains by adding MSDS headers. Look for one this spring though. I would imagine the gains would not be that great if all other things were stock. You need to open up the intake to take advantage of the headers. Cat-back wouldn't hurt either. Y-Pipe seems to be the bang for the buck mod on this car. 1998.5 E1 SVT Contour #5482/6535

Re: headers #880160 02/26/04 12:01 AM
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 337 Jacksonville,FL I IanX12SVT OP CEG\'er
OP IanX12SVT CEG\'er I Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 337 Jacksonville,FL	the muffler shop. 98.5 SVT RIP 92 240sx SE [image]http://home.comcast.net/~iansmith321/wsb/media/384458/site1054_t.jpg[/image]

Re: headers #880161 02/26/04 12:03 AM
Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,446 Playing in the mud!! G GIT-R-DONE Hard-core CEG'er
GIT-R-DONE Hard-core CEG'er G Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,446 Playing in the mud!!	So yiour working with your bro? sweet! Formaly FLCEGkid Chris Bertrand 1995 Ford Contour Gl 2.5 V6 MTX FOR SALE! Somebody please buy my Fiberglas hood!!

Re: headers #880162 02/26/04 12:07 AM
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 337 Jacksonville,FL I IanX12SVT OP CEG\'er
OP IanX12SVT CEG\'er I Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 337 Jacksonville,FL	man with my tru duals my car is going to be very loud i'll have to put bigger resonators on it. that equals more weight oh well. a extra 5lbs won't kill 98.5 SVT RIP 92 240sx SE [image]http://home.comcast.net/~iansmith321/wsb/media/384458/site1054_t.jpg[/image]

Re: headers #880163 02/26/04 12:08 AM
Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,446 Playing in the mud!! G GIT-R-DONE Hard-core CEG'er
GIT-R-DONE Hard-core CEG'er G Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,446 Playing in the mud!!	lol yeah i think you could manage with the 5lbs. Formaly FLCEGkid Chris Bertrand 1995 Ford Contour Gl 2.5 V6 MTX FOR SALE! Somebody please buy my Fiberglas hood!!

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