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Originally posted by KingpinSVT:
SPURRIER COME TO CU! HELP US!




No offense, dude, but if you're complaining about a shady program and then campaigning for Steve Spurrier to come in and save the day... just prepare for more of the same.

The university needs to decide whether a big-time football program that brings in a ton of money is worth more than the potential national black eye and NCAA probation they might get. Problem is, to most schools the $$$$$ is the driving factor. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same in Boulder...


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I'm not quite a neandrathal, but I do have some old fashioned values. I hold the door open for a woman. I try and curb profanity around them.

I'm also open minded. Women belong almost everywhere men do. At NASA, in race cars, Politics, and as a fighter jock.

I hope the justice system does not fail the victem. If she ws raped then the rapists should pay. If, however, she was offended by locker room banter, then tough. She asked to be a part of a mens team. I also think the coach is remarkably un professional. He should pay as well, for any crimes he's found guilty of and for being a sub par represenative of the university.

Here's the rub, I do not think women belong everywhere. Not on a mens college football team. Most definitely not at the Citadel or VMA. I don't want girls in the boy scouts and I don't want boys in the girl scouts. Some traditions are worthwhile.

This from a happily married man (whose wife is a successful carrer woman)and father of a daughter whom I hope becomes a racecar driving rocket scientist philanthropist.


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Originally posted by 00SVT:
Originally posted by KingpinSVT:
SPURRIER COME TO CU! HELP US!




No offense, dude, but if you're complaining about a shady program and then campaigning for Steve Spurrier to come in and save the day... just prepare for more of the same.

The university needs to decide whether a big-time football program that brings in a ton of money is worth more than the potential national black eye and NCAA probation they might get. Problem is, to most schools the $$$$$ is the driving factor. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same in Boulder...




im from florida, what do you expect?


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Originally posted by 00SVT:

If you're gonna use the quote, use it in context... (from ESPN.com story )





You know, I do deserve a troutslap. After posting this, I decided to do some research. Backwards, I know. It is quite apparent that the media is spinning this sh!t and making the CU coach out to be a scumbag.

ME <-----


I'm a little pissed at myself for getting suckered into the media's BS.


HOWEVER, I do still think that the coach's comments about the sex of the kicker making her a worse kicker is a outta line. He's still going to burn for that one.


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Originally posted by KingpinSVT:
our school is going down the drain. . . .




CU gets a lot of prestige and high marks, but there' s a lot of corruption, STDs, an astounding number of on-campus rapes, and A LOT of alcohol related arrests. In fact, if we looked it up, it's probably among the worst in the country in those categories.

I enjoy drinkin' beer as much as the next guy, but I don't know what it is about the CU population and going just way beyond the boundries. (No offense, Kingpin. )


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Well, it hasn't gone that far here at the University of Minnesota, but a scandal over taking prospects to strip clubs made headlines here.

You know, why can't they go after the ones that WANT to have sex with them?


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Originally posted by JVT:
I think your situation is way different.

You were still a child, and she was what, 19? Totally different.

And why did she go public with this via a friggin Sports Illustrated article? Guess she's looking for her 15 minutes...

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You are an ignorant a$$hole on this topic! My now ex girl was raped while dating me. I know more about this than you could ever imagine. STFU you insensitive a$$hole. Don't ever say a girl shouldn't be able to come out about being raped. Most women at that age don't know the law is on their side, they don't file a police report and then on top of that they will blame themselves. She prob went public because she couldn't get her day in court and this is her only way of getting her justice, via telling the world about it.


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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
You are an ignorant a$$hole on this topic! My now ex girl was raped while dating me. I know more about this than you could ever imagine. STFU you insensitive a$$hole. Don't ever say a girl shouldn't be able to come out about being raped. Most women at that age don't know the law is on their side, they don't file a police report and then on top of that they will blame themselves. She prob went public because she couldn't get her day in court and this is her only way of getting her justice, via telling the world about it.




Easy there tough guy.

1. I'm telling the cops first, NOT a columnist for the Sports Illustrated. Dunno about you, but Rick OReilly won't be able to do a damn thing about it. If I'm raped, I'm looking for justice, not fame and attention. In no way do I think a girl SHOULDN'T come out and say she was raped, all I'm questioning is HOW she did this. (should have explained this in my previous post)

2. You're making assumptions by saying "most women don't know the law is on their side" and "probably went public because she couldn't get her day in court" .

Bullchit. She didn't get her day in court because she never informed the proper authorities. Telling the coach, what's that gonna do??? Even though he SHOULD report it, but no coach would hurt his team, especially with the competitiveness of college football. At 19, she's smarter than that.

If she truly wanted justice, she'd be at the police stations writing up reports and complaints, not sitting in a comfy chair taking questions for a all-star columnist, ESPECIALLY SINCE SHE KNOWS WHO DID IT.

Right now, it's all accusations anyway, and until I see some proof that this happened, it's gonna be just that, accusations.

She got verbally assaulted, which is unfortunate and it's far from OK, but what the hell did she expect? She's going into a locker room full of macho guys, trying to be competitive in a all-male sport, when she obviously wasn't.

Men sports = men only
Women sports = women only

End of conversation.

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Maybe when it happens to someone you are close to you will actually read up on the subject.

http://www.hopeforhealing.org/


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