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Originally posted by BurritaSVT:
Well i hope the tuning is not to hard because i have some 50 lbs injectors sitting on my table to go in my car. Don't scare me with the idling theory i hate to look like an idiot with all this money tied up in the car and the sucker doesn't even run clean. But at least I won't have to worry about running lean.......... 
You probably will have idiling issues, those injectors are probably not very efficient at delivering a good spray with a small amount of fuel. Sorry
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So tell me how does Buckshot and Seawulf idle so well with 42lb injectors?
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These are FWHP. The only ones that we have dyno proven are the 19's and 24's. It seems that if you multiply 11.25 by the injector # you get a close number. Not all are exact.
19# = 215 - 225
24# = 270 - 280
30# = 345 - 355
36# = 400 - 410
42# = 470 - 480
50# = 560 - 570
120# = 1345 - 1355
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It is true that the larger injectors will spray more fuel than smaller injectors at the 'Normal' minimum pulse width. It is also true the very short pulse widths are not good for developing a good spray pattern and cause the fuel to come out in dribbles and droplets, therefore the atomization of the fuel is poorer and sometimes (esp. in cold weather) can result in a less than optimum idle and surely result in less clean idle emissions. However, that does not mean that the engine won't run reasonably well at idle. Consider also that some engine intake designs (tumble port) will create better idle speed atomization than others and may also not have problems.
So all I can really say is that it must be tested to see if very large injectors will work well or not.
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Originally posted by Keyser:
These are FWHP. The only ones that we have dyno proven are the 19's and 24's. It seems that if you multiply 11.25 by the injector # you get a close number. Not all are exact.
19# = 215 - 225
24# = 270 - 280
30# = 345 - 355
36# = 400 - 410
42# = 470 - 480
50# = 560 - 570
120# = 1345 - 1355
ill take the 120s please 
also, couldnt the idle just be raised a bit with the larger injectors? like say a 1500 idle? im sure the little extra gas used would mean nothing to someone whos invested thousands into a sweet turbo setup anyways
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Originally posted by Russell-3L:
Originally posted by Keyser:
These are FWHP. The only ones that we have dyno proven are the 19's and 24's. It seems that if you multiply 11.25 by the injector # you get a close number. Not all are exact.
19# = 215 - 225
24# = 270 - 280
30# = 345 - 355
36# = 400 - 410
42# = 470 - 480
50# = 560 - 570
120# = 1345 - 1355
ill take the 120s please
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I don't mean to hijack this thread but I have a related question: Straight out of an e-mail from kieth at streetflight to me: Quote:
Hi Jeff:
Ford motersports does not make a 36 LB injector, at least one that they are willing to tell me about. They do however make a 39 LB. injector. Will that do?
I told him those would be okay... what do you guys think?
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I am still waiting for your pipes to come back from the guy that makes them shinny. He should be done soon. I expect to ship your stuff late this week or early next week.
Keith
 I am so anxious! I can't wait!
Also tom did you get my PM?
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No. I read it though. Did you get mine? 39's are probably just fine.
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Originally posted by warmonger:
No. I read it though.
Did you get mine?
39's are probably just fine.
But I thought 39# injectors were from the 03 Cobra,and 03 Cobra=Returnless, and 98 svt equals return. Anyone know.
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Originally posted by livinsvt:
Originally posted by warmonger:
39's are probably just fine.
But I thought 39# injectors were from the 03 Cobra,and 03 Cobra=Returnless, and 98 svt equals return. Anyone know.
Swap injector clips. Fixed. Where's my cookie.
Is that true???
The Cobra uses 39lb injectors and they already have returnless hook ups. Cool... I bet you can find those for sale cheap... 
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