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So at idle you're saying the turbo just stops spinning?  And again, a small turbo setup is easy to build with NO LAG. And remember, a turbo has way more torque on a zetec than a s/c,,, so....... you've just been schooled. And what happens on a small 4cyl street car is quite different than a V8. So although your supercharger on your truck may be good for it, a s/c on a zetec isn't a great idea. And even on your truck you can get more power a turbo, but if you don't want power, than that's fine, I was under the impression that this guy wanted power. Yes you can set it up so a s/c zetec is faster than a lotta turbo zetecs, but at the expense that it most likely won't be streetable.
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The car's currently on the road, boosting, so that's all I care about.
Once the rpms are above the "boost threshold", anytime you step on it you've got boost. On my car, that's just under 3000rpms.
At 2500rpm I have 164wtq.
At 3000rpm I have 189wtq
At 3500rpm I have 208wtq
At 3600rpm I have 211wtq, peak.
It stays above 200wtq till 5200. A supercharger can't compete at similar boost levels.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
So at idle you're saying the turbo just stops spinning? And again, a small turbo setup is easy to build with NO LAG. And remember, a turbo has way more torque on a zetec than a s/c,,, so....... you've just been schooled.
And what happens on a small 4cyl street car is quite different than a V8. So although your supercharger on your truck may be good for it, a s/c on a zetec isn't a great idea. And even on your truck you can get more power a turbo, but if you don't want power, than that's fine, I was under the impression that this guy wanted power. Yes you can set it up so a s/c zetec is faster than a lotta turbo zetecs, but at the expense that it most likely won't be streetable.
Who'de you school Fool?
I understand all that, but your post above wasn't 100% accurate. I'm not starting a battle Kremit, I've already won the war 
But in all seriousness, I agree about the Torque, theres no doubt in my mind. You've got many more options with a turbo than a S/C also.
I never said it stopped spinning, just doesnt spin as fast as a S/C at idle, hence....LAG.
Second Period just let out.
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How about instead of arguing and making him reconsider doing ANYTHING.....
All those in favour of fasti4 of doing anything to his contour to make it one of the fastest Zetec Contour say Aye!
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Originally posted by Cris'pus:
How about instead of arguing and making him reconsider doing ANYTHING.....
All those in favour of fasti4 of doing anything to his contour to make it one of the fastest Zetec Contour say Aye!
Aye
Who's arguing, thats just Kremit and I's way of saying add a turbo to your super charged Contour! 
Oh yeah, and AYE 
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its not that superchargers suck on the zetec, its that the superchargers currently available for the zetec suck
same goes for the duratec, the vortec is a POS, and makes barely any torque!
so by the logic in this thread, the duratec sucks for superchargers too?
now i could build the bottom end of a duratec and slap on a supercharger from the 03 cobra, and have so much torque that i could never get traction, and light the tires on fire! would you guys still say these engines suck for superchargers.
its not the engine that sucks for superchargers, its the sh!tty superchargers being put on them!!!
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Originally posted by Cris'pus:
How about instead of arguing and making him reconsider doing ANYTHING.....
All those in favour of fasti4 of doing anything to his contour to make it one of the fastest Zetec Contour say Aye!
Aye
AYE!! 
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Originally posted by bk4293:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
So at idle you're saying the turbo just stops spinning? And again, a small turbo setup is easy to build with NO LAG. And remember, a turbo has way more torque on a zetec than a s/c,,, so....... you've just been schooled.
And what happens on a small 4cyl street car is quite different than a V8. So although your supercharger on your truck may be good for it, a s/c on a zetec isn't a great idea. And even on your truck you can get more power a turbo, but if you don't want power, than that's fine, I was under the impression that this guy wanted power. Yes you can set it up so a s/c zetec is faster than a lotta turbo zetecs, but at the expense that it most likely won't be streetable.
Who'de you school Fool?
I understand all that, but your post above wasn't 100% accurate. I'm not starting a battle Kremit, I've already won the war
But in all seriousness, I agree about the Torque, theres no doubt in my mind. You've got many more options with a turbo than a S/C also.
I never said it stopped spinning, just doesnt spin as fast as a S/C at idle, hence....LAG.
Second Period just let out.
No I won the war before the fighting even started. 
Do some research, not all turbo systems have LAG, quit saying they do. Quit using the wrong term. I believe seawulf said it was boost threshold... but anyways, a supercharger doesn't reach full boost until a certain RPM either, same with turbo. And then once the s/c does reach full boost it has parasitic drag, another not so great thing for big power.......... but if you think weren't you're saying is true, then if you ever get the money, go with a s/c for your zetec.  Remedial classes just let out (or just begun).
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Do some research, not all turbo systems have LAG, quit saying they do. Quit using the wrong term. I believe seawulf said it was boost threshold... but anyways, a supercharger doesn't reach full boost until a certain RPM either, same with turbo. And then once the s/c does reach full boost it has parasitic drag, another not so great thing for big power..........
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91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)
FS: SVT rear sway bar
WTB: Very cheap beater
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