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Originally posted by procyon:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
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..... RESEARCH IT if you don't believe me.



Does knowing the parts and watching them being built on the production line at the Ford engine plant count as research?




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Originally posted by path914:
Originally posted by procyon:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by procyon:
..... RESEARCH IT if you don't believe me.



Does knowing the parts and watching them being built on the production line at the Ford engine plant count as research?




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Originally posted by procyon:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by procyon:
..... RESEARCH IT if you don't believe me.



Does knowing the parts and watching them being built on the production line at the Ford engine plant count as research?



Obviously you don't know them well enough.


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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by Rev. Po-Jay:
FYI- The little Zetec is called a Duratec in Europe. Same engine.



Nope, zetec is zetec, the 2L duratec in the focus RS in england is a duratec designed off a zetec, it has an aluminum block, timing chain, and other changes.



Correction, some parts of Europe call zetecs zetecs others call them duratecs, though most call it a zetec a zetec (got burton power catalog right here with zetecs in it)..
And another correction the 2L duratec does not have an aluminum block, not sure how the timing setup is,,, original info I had was wrong.


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Originally posted by procyon:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by procyon:
..... RESEARCH IT if you don't believe me.



Does knowing the parts and watching them being built on the production line at the Ford engine plant count as research?



I don't know what plant you supposedly were at and what parts you know,, but here are some sites showing the 2L duratec RS that is based on the regular 2L zetec,, but I guess they're all wrong and you are right.
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/focus_rs.asp
http://www.tyresmoke.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=1,20,22,25,27,5&Board=reviews&Number=125316&Main=125316
http://www.rsownersclub.co.uk/car_info/focus.htm
http://www.hegartys.com/new-cars/focus-rs.html
http://autozine.kyul.net/html/Ford_Europe2.htm



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Sometime in 1996 Ford did some racing development with McLaren Engines IIRC for the Contour being used in a racing series that had a 2.0L cap on displacement. What came of this was a destroked 2.5L V6 that met the displacement requirements. I have read an article on this, but I am too lazy to search it up and link it.

Edit: Dug up the file: http://www.bath.ac.uk/mech-eng/auto/txnet/983038.pdf. So, a 2.0L Duratec V6 did exist at one time! This is a far cry from the I4 Duratec line ... let's not forget, before displacement considerations, this is a V6 forum!

So there!

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Heck, those marketing guys in Europe are calling everything a Duratec. Look here, there is a 1.3L 8V engine for the Ka being called a duratec.

Despite what they call it, the 2.0L engine in the Focus RS is a really a Zetec. The cast iron block is a dead giveaway.

As I stated before, Fords new global I4 engine is not based on the Zetec. It is an entirely new, from the ground up, design.

In the U.S., they are calling the new global I4 a Duratec in the current Ranger and 2005 Focus & Escape.

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fastcougar,
Very interesting SAE article. They were using a destroked version of the regular 2.5L roller finger follower engine.

You might not know it, but they are currently making 2.0L 24V V6 Duratec engines at Cleveland Engine Plant. These are for the Jaguar X-Type. The Jaguar and Lincoln Duratec V6 engines all have bucket tappet style heads instead of roller finger followers.
3.0L for the Lincoln LS
3.0L for the Jag XJ
2.5L & 3.0L for the Jag S-Type
2.0L, 2.5L, and 3.0L for the Jag X-Type
The 2.0L is a destroked 2.5L.

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Originally posted by procyon:
fastcougar,
Very interesting SAE article. They were using a destroked version of the regular 2.5L roller finger follower engine.

You might not know it, but they are currently making 2.0L 24V V6 Duratec engines at Cleveland Engine Plant. These are for the Jaguar X-Type. The Jaguar and Lincoln Duratec V6 engines all have bucket tappet style heads instead of roller finger followers.
3.0L for the Lincoln LS
3.0L for the Jag XJ
2.5L & 3.0L for the Jag S-Type
2.0L, 2.5L, and 3.0L for the Jag X-Type
The 2.0L is a destroked 2.5L.


Yes, I remember reading that somewhere as well, but I thought that it was for the European market only. I could be mistken ...

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