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Problem is there are too many people around here who think it's a drag-racing trans and beat the crap out of it

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"THE" most accurate statement uttered here in the CEG, ever I have almost 48K on my car and haven't had ANY trans problems, for that matter, I haven't had any problems with my car at all! I think the other problem is most people have never driven a stick and this was their first one, not good. I'm not saying its the best tranny in the world because its not and a factory installed Quaife/Torsen would've been smart too, but its not made for 5K+ launches, its just not and until people get that through their heads, they're going to continue to blow up, period.


As far as a Cavalier w/ an Ecotec beating a CSVT, no way in hell. For this one, I'm from Missouri...show me

Well stated.

Well you guys get too touchy...Of course I know that I will have to upgrade gas when I go F.I..DUH! But till then its 87 for me. Also I will independant this year so I will get about 3K to help with bills each quarter for school so I'll have plenty to go turbo. I know that the warranty doesnt cover that so really I'm not going to touch the engine at all for at least 20k which would be next year. And a base ecotec beating an SVT in the 1/4! You just have no idea about track racing obviously. A base cavy probably weight 700lbs less then the SVT. With no traction problems the 60' time will be won by the BASE cavy every time. My SVT 60' times sucked. I usally ran a 2.4 but sometimes a 2.3. Thats sucks in track terms. I've seen a few Cavy's run 2.1, 2.0 track time with o.k drivers. Just driving my car around I can already tell the 60' is way faster in cavy. I will admit that it would never hang in the top gears with the SVT but by the time the SVT gets going in the quarter its to late. Come-on SVT's are not unbeatable. And with a lighter car its much easier. I guess I'll find out in march when track season starts

My 60' foot time when i went to the track bone stock was the best 2.2 and a few 2.3...also it depends on track as well..I dont have to worry now though...I should be easily in the 1.8ish range maybe better as i soon start modding my car more

and your saying thats not alot of weight? 500 lbs!!!
Gimme a break Believe what you must but a low trap speed(i.e 84-87) isnt out of the question if you pull a better 60' time. Here some links believe it! and here is some cars that weight EVEN less with not much more H.P. Put two and two together
Acura RSX Type-S, 2002 04/02 FWD 2,775 168 0.88 15.0 133 $23,650
Acura RSX Type-S, 2002 12/02 FWD 2,775 172 0.82 16.1 142 $23,650
Acura TSX, 2004 08/03 FWD 3,230 179 0.84 15.7 131.2 $26,490
Dodge SRT-4, 2003 01/03 FWD 2,870 223 0.85 14.2 119 $19,995
Ford SVT Focus, 2002 04/02 FWD 2,750 150 0.85 15.8 116 $17,995
Ford SVT Focus, 2003 01/03 FWD 2,780 150 0.87 15.7 122 $17,480
Honda Civic Si, 2002 12/02 FWD 2,774 140 0.83 16.2 142 $19,440
Honda Civic Si, 2003 01/03 FWD 2,730 138 0.83 16.2 140 $19,000
Hyundai Tiburon GT V6, 2003 04/02 FWD 3,023 148 0.84 15.6 122 $18,399
Hyundai Tiburon V6, 2003 01/03 FWD 3,040 148 0.84 15.8 123 $18,849
Mazdaspeed Protegé, 2003 01/03 FWD 2,810 150 0.89 15.5 123 $19,980
Mazdaspeed Protegé, 2003 10/02 FWD 2,843 151 0.88 15.3 123 -
The last stock Ecotec Cavalier we tested ran to 60 mph in 8.3 seconds and loafed down the strip in 16 seconds flat at 85.6 mph(from sport compact..this ecotec being a LOADED Ls model weighs as much as an SVT)

http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=48&i=319&t=319
just scroll throught some of the posts lots of 15.2's 15.3 on stock eco's.

IN THE END through all my [censored] the modding ability of the cavalier is way higher than the CSVT. Of course this is like selling sand on the beach but oh well

All I said was it wasn't 700 pounds. And also, I read through every one of those mind-numbing posts on that j-body board and I still have yet to see anyone hit this supposed 15.2-15.3 time. Saw a bunch of supposedly stock guys running mid-15s and some even up in the 16s. Only cars I saw running low 15s were the intake/exhaust guys. So where are these BONE STOCK ecotecs knocking on the 14-second door?

And for you guys without the patience to weed through that mess on the j-body page, here's what "stueys2003" had to say...
I ran with like 5000 miles or so on my engine, I now passed 10 but i dont know about any track time in october in chicago. 16.5 with a auto no mods accept a fake @!#$ wai took the hose off the box and put a cone filter on the plastic bend. Now i have the same broak @!#$ air setup but i got the upper and lower engine mounts, a flowmaster 40 series muffler, autotrans interceptor, and a lil toy called a g-box. makes it run richer!!!

A g-box??!??!?!?! What in the hell is this crap? Hahahahahaha... somebody over there was pimping a Pace Setter exhaust setup as well. I didn't know they still sold those things. I think they used to have those in the Sears Christmas catalog next to the louvers...