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#858707 02/01/04 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Yeah, looks are opinion,, but if you see the evo look as the future, than I hope the future never comes.... I don't think abstractism works well for cars, which the evo is sorta a picasso of cars,, it's lines don't flow well at all. The euros look bad, the trunk and wing look bad, the hood looks bad (though functionality is good), the front bumper looks bad, and the interior, especially the back seat doesn't spark my interest. I'd like to know what you think looks good about them, tim man. As said before, performance is great, I can't fault the evo or srt4 on that, but the evo looks like crap, the srt4 has some good ideas, but still doesn't look GOOD. It's not that I wouldn't drive either one, it's just that you can't justify calling either car sexy. Now, the srt4 has some hope, I've seen heavily modified (exterior) srt4's in person and they can look good.. Haven't seen a modified evo, though did see a modified lancer (had evo style hood, and some other things) that looked even worse modified than stock,,, and it was supposed to be the good looking lancer I reckon this is gonna be one of the times where we agree to disagree,,, but atleast I'll be disagreeing on the subject and saving myself from ever owning a truly ugly car (my car isn't truly ugly, so don't even mention it) ....




The funny thing is all of the things which you mentioned were examples of "looking bad," are those that I believe would fall squarely in the "looks bad-ass" department--especially the hood. Perhaps our standards of "good" and "bad" are as starkly opposite as they can get. No matter..

Do you have a picture of normal cars that you consider "good looking" when modified ? Perhaps by examining what you would change, we can figure out why we don't agree. I'll give you examples right now of things that I don't like with pictures as an example:

* Mirko Splitters or any other type of chin spoiler that seem to break the natural natural direction of a vehicle's curves.



* Black Carbon Fiber Hood on a car painted a different color than black.


* Hood pins on modern cars or carbon fiber:


* Asian Clown Whore Body Kits or Crappy looking fueler wing on FWD style car, or fart cans:


Here's a car that I think looks good from factory: here or here or here

I would also throw in the Evo and a black or a silver SRT-4 as really good looking cars (though it would be nice if the hood scoop was functional and not just a cheap piece of plastic).

How about you ? What's good, what's crap.

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I think our opinions aren't that opposite,,, though my main thing is start with a good looking car and you got less work to do,, with the evo it would take a lotta work getting it to look good,, it just doesn't have a smooth flow at all. The ebay cars you posted all look pretty good. My favorite car is the dodge viper (got 20 model vipers) if that helps you any.


Two things you need to be educated on though:
Chris's car, the contour, has a fiberglass hood and the pins are for safety.
The SRT4 hood is functional, the same as the evo's.


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Originally posted by DimitriPopov:
Originally posted by Thinkmoto:

Yeah you hate lookingat Evo's cuz you know you'll get your ass handed to you day in and day out by them.




Dear sir yells-alot ,
Please remove the stick from your ass. Everything else Pete posted for me




I don't have a stick up my ass. If anybody does it's Kermit or Pete. I could really care less about their opioions.
Fact is the EVO and the STI are excellent performing cars. I think some of you need to experience other cars besides contours.


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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
The SRT4 hood is functional, the same as the evo's.





Exactly!! Function that's what it's all about. Read the new test on the EVO RS it's a stripped down EVO without the big ugly wing. Too bad it's not as stable at speed without the big wing.


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I just don't like looking at the Evo and worrying that it's going to transform itself into a giant robot. It's got Gundam face.


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Originally posted by Thinkmoto:
Originally posted by DimitriPopov:
Originally posted by Thinkmoto:

Yeah you hate lookingat Evo's cuz you know you'll get your ass handed to you day in and day out by them.




Dear sir yells-alot ,
Please remove the stick from your ass. Everything else Pete posted for me



I don't have a stick up my ass. If anybody does it's Kermit or Pete. I could really care less about their opioions.
Fact is the EVO and the STI are excellent performing cars. I think some of you need to experience other cars besides contours.



Nice of you to retort by stating I have a stick up my ass.

Instead of name calling and such, try having an intelligent disucssion. I replied to many of your comments with legitimate statements. All you can do is be disrespectful amd name call. Grow up.

I could care less about your opinion, too. But to blatantly state that function over form is right and looks is wrong, you are wrong.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and to call someone a jackass because he disagrees with you shows your lack of class and maturity.


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Originally posted by SVT ST PETE:
Originally posted by Thinkmoto:
Originally posted by DimitriPopov:
Originally posted by Thinkmoto:

Yeah you hate lookingat Evo's cuz you know you'll get your ass handed to you day in and day out by them.




Dear sir yells-alot ,
Please remove the stick from your ass. Everything else Pete posted for me



I don't have a stick up my ass. If anybody does it's Kermit or Pete. I could really care less about their opioions.
Fact is the EVO and the STI are excellent performing cars. I think some of you need to experience other cars besides contours.



Nice of you to retort by stating I have a stick up my ass.

Instead of name calling and such, try having an intelligent disucssion. I replied to many of your comments with legitimate statements. All you can do is be disrespectful amd name call. Grow up.

I could care less about your opinion, too. But to blatantly state that function over form is right and looks is wrong, you are wrong.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and to call someone a jackass because he disagrees with you shows your lack of class and maturity.





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Originally posted by SVT ST PETE:
Originally posted by Thinkmoto:
Originally posted by DimitriPopov:
Originally posted by Thinkmoto:

Yeah you hate lookingat Evo's cuz you know you'll get your ass handed to you day in and day out by them.




Dear sir yells-alot ,
Please remove the stick from your ass. Everything else Pete posted for me



I don't have a stick up my ass. If anybody does it's Kermit or Pete. I could really care less about their opioions.
Fact is the EVO and the STI are excellent performing cars. I think some of you need to experience other cars besides contours.



Nice of you to retort by stating I have a stick up my ass.

Instead of name calling and such, try having an intelligent disucssion. I replied to many of your comments with legitimate statements. All you can do is be disrespectful amd name call. Grow up.

I could care less about your opinion, too. But to blatantly state that function over form is right and looks is wrong, you are wrong.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and to call someone a jackass because he disagrees with you shows your lack of class and maturity.




Agreed.


No one is saying it's not a good performing car, but you are blinded by its performance. Go to a mitsu dealer, stand in front of an evo, then OPEN YOUR EYES, clean up the puke, agree that it looks like crap and we can all agree it's a good performer,,, performance doesn't change looks, and when you have cars that perform equally or better available, than looks do become a factor when considering what car you like or want to buy. I like how none of your comments are based on anything.


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I'm not "blinded" by it's performance. You are blinded by it's looks because that's all you see. Yes we both agree that it performs. I think it also looks good, you do not. Fine whatever life goes on does it not?


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Originally posted by Thinkmoto:
I'm not "blinded" by it's performance. You are blinded by it's looks because that's all you see. Yes we both agree that it performs. I think it also looks good, you do not. Fine whatever life goes on does it not?



How am I blinded by its looks when I say it performs well? I can only wish I was blind, then I wouldn't ever have to see its ugly body. Life does go on,,, though some of our's go on thinking about more than just performance.


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