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Originally posted by Thinkmoto:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by dnewma04:
Ok, they are equally as ugly, but the aztek is more practical and the EVO is faster.
Very true. I work across from mitsu dealer, I hate looking over there. Every new mistubishi looks like crap, the mirages,galants, and the evos. I just saw the 06 eclipse design in motor trend,, looks like mitsubishi prides itself on bad looks.
Yeah you hate lookingat Evo's cuz you know you'll get your ass handed to you day in and day out by them. They look much better in person by far. I've drooled over them many times at the dealer. The performance numbers are awesome you can't deny them of that. mitsubishi delivered as did Subaru with the wrx and STI,even Dodge of all companies made the SRT-4. I hate Dodge all together, but at leats they had the balls to build a turbo car and build it right. it's all about the numbers and performance. i'd rather have a butt azz ugly car that is fast as hell. Then a show winning boat like all the others. Saturn has a s/c car coming what does Ford have???? OOoOooO the lightning and the Cobra woopeeedoo. The EVo and the STI will hand both of them there ass in OVERALL performance and handling. I wish people could get over the whole "looks" thing. You can't beat the EVo for the price....
CAN YOU READ????  I WORK ACROSS FROM A MITSU DEALER!!!! THEY LOOK WORSE IN PERSON!!! I never mentioned the performance, because yeah it is a great performer. And guess what, it is also much faster than your car? So I actually have some decent taste and know the car is ugly, you, on the other hand, are enamored by the fact that's it performs well. If it wasn't fast, I'd bet you'd be agreeing it's an ugly little car.  I could care less what ford is bringing to the table, or what any company brings, as long as there are companies bringing it. The cheapo srt4 looks a lot better than the evo (aside from the rear-end ((neither car is good on that aspect though)) and the ride height of the srt4). And I'm not trying to beat anything for any price,, in fact I plan on skipping the ~$30k price range of cars and moving up to real cars when I get out of college and into a career. And I think todras's example holds very true. Heck, why don't manufacturers forget about looks all together if performance is the only thing that matters, also strip the interiors, use primer instead of paint, never wash the car...  
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Originally posted by Tim:
Originally posted by dnewma04:
Maybe you don't care about aesthetics of vehicles. A great deal of auto enthusiasts do, get the [censored] over it. And I was comparing cars to women, jackass.
If everyone had an opinion like that, Picasso would have never been famous and we'd all still be listening to classical music, or climbing trees and flinging crap at each other.
Tim
yeah! 'cause if picasso painted something he wasn't happy with, he'd just add some ground effects, a wing, and some cool wheels to his paintings, and miraculously, they'd look a lot better!
neon and lancers are inherently (imo) ugly! you can't polish a turd! 
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The Evo Looks Sweet, with the red brembos, They are AWD, and they are modeled after the ralley cars themselves, you have to have a sturdier car to be driving 100+ mph on dirt or snow or gravel. How car you not say its not sweet. ok yea i'll agree the WRX STI looks better and its a bit faster, but not only do you have to get on a 6 month waiting list to get one, they are also 3000 dollars more.
Definatly go with the EVO, I would trade my CSVT in a heartbeat for an EVO, But I would have to get the Regular taillights, the stock euro tails are hella gay
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Originally posted by Tim:
Originally posted by dnewma04:
Maybe you don't care about aesthetics of vehicles. A great deal of auto enthusiasts do, get the [censored] over it. And I was comparing cars to women, jackass.
If everyone had an opinion like that, Picasso would have never been famous and we'd all still be listening to classical music, or climbing trees and flinging crap at each other.
Tim
Umm, you realize painting is judged on aesthetics? No, not everyone liked (likes) picasso's stuff, but todras's opinion is that aesthetics matter to auto enthusiasts,,, are you saying they don't matter to art enthusiasts?  I don't think picasso's paintings are high performance paintings.  Either that,,, or you're saying picasso's paintings are ugly and agree that the evo is ugly,, but still that brings us back to you thinking that piccaso's painting perform well.
I think todras proved his point,,, all the evo look lovers also love fat women. 
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Originally posted by BMorgn66:
The Evo Looks Sweet, with the red brembos, They are AWD, and they are modeled after the ralley cars themselves, you have to have a sturdier car to be driving 100+ mph on dirt or snow or gravel. How car you not say its not sweet.
Once again,,, it being a great performance car doesn't change its looks,,, I think ya'll are all star struck and can't see pass the performance (yeah if I was in the market for that type of car and the STi didn't exist, I'd take the evo because looks aren't everything, but they are important). It's like the srt4, if there was another car out there, engine built as good, same performance, same price, but looked good,, srt4 sells would go down the drain. It is a pretty sweet car,,, a pretty sweet ugly car.
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Originally posted by Thinkmoto:
Yeah you hate lookingat Evo's cuz you know you'll get your ass handed to you day in and day out by them.
There are plenty of cars that will hand me my a$$ that I love.
Originally posted by Thinkmoto:
it's all about the numbers and performance.
Then go buy a junked out Rabbit and mod it out to run 10s.
Originally posted by Thinkmoto:
You can't beat the EVo for the price....
Really?
Originally posted by Thinkmoto:
I wish people could get over the whole "looks" thing.
I'd rather drive a slower car that I can look at and appreciate the appearance vs. an ugly fast car.
Originally posted by Thinkmoto:
you are comparing apples to oranges jackass.
Grow up.
Your post is probably the dumbest I've read in awhile.
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Originally posted by Thinkmoto:
Yeah you hate lookingat Evo's cuz you know you'll get your ass handed to you day in and day out by them.
Dear sir yells-alot ,
Please remove the stick from your ass. Everything else Pete posted for me
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by Tim:
Originally posted by dnewma04:
Maybe you don't care about aesthetics of vehicles. A great deal of auto enthusiasts do, get the [censored] over it. And I was comparing cars to women, jackass.
If everyone had an opinion like that, Picasso would have never been famous and we'd all still be listening to classical music, or climbing trees and flinging crap at each other.
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Umm, you realize painting is judged on aesthetics? No, not everyone liked (likes) picasso's stuff, but todras's opinion is that aesthetics matter to auto enthusiasts,,, are you saying they don't matter to art enthusiasts? I don't think picasso's paintings are high performance paintings. Either that,,, or you're saying picasso's paintings are ugly and agree that the evo is ugly,, but still that brings us back to you thinking that piccaso's painting perform well.
I think todras proved his point,,, all the evo look lovers also love fat women.
Picasso was an abstract/cubist artist and set new standards of form and interpretation that redefined the meaning of what was considered art (or good art, at least). That is one of the two points I made: high performance cars need not have an aggressively sleak look (I prefer to think of the Evo and SRT-4 as being two cars with a sort of techy-muscle-car of the future appearance); the latter point being, of course, that most people who judge the Evo and SRT-4 as both being an ugly car are only looking at the platforms on which they're based.
This post is obviously split right down the middle between those who like it and those who do not. Ceterus paribus, I believe it comes down to a matter of personal expectations. I don't hold the same standards for taste in vehicles that you do, Kremit, as I can find no fault in appearance in an Evo. The entire look of the car flows just right for me. I've seen them in person, I've driven in them, hell, I even used to work for a Mitsubishi Dealership where I had to look at them everyday. My question to you now, Frog man, is what do you find wrong with them ?
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Yeah, looks are opinion,, but if you see the evo look as the future, than I hope the future never comes.... I don't think abstractism works well for cars, which the evo is sorta a picasso of cars,, it's lines don't flow well at all. The euros look bad, the trunk and wing look bad, the hood looks bad (though functionality is good), the front bumper looks bad, and the interior, especially the back seat doesn't spark my interest. I'd like to know what you think looks good about them, tim man. As said before, performance is great, I can't fault the evo or srt4 on that, but the evo looks like crap, the srt4 has some good ideas, but still doesn't look GOOD. It's not that I wouldn't drive either one, it's just that you can't justify calling either car sexy. Now, the srt4 has some hope, I've seen heavily modified (exterior) srt4's in person and they can look good.. Haven't seen a modified evo, though did see a modified lancer (had evo style hood, and some other things) that looked even worse modified than stock,,, and it was supposed to be the good looking lancer I reckon this is gonna be one of the times where we agree to disagree,,, but atleast I'll be disagreeing on the subject and saving myself from ever owning a truly ugly car (my car isn't truly ugly, so don't even mention it) ....
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i had a chance to drive an evo late last summer. very nice. handles about how my wrx does (but better) on coil-overs. rides about as harsh too. the car rags have not over-exageratted about the steering, its incredible. very quick, very responsive, feels like its connected physically to your brain stem.
power was also wonderful. the power delivery has the same lag-boost feel that my wrx has, only once it hits the proper rpm it spools fast, like a lightswitch, wheras a wrx seems to creep up to full boost eventually.
in all if you dont mind (or like) the looks you'll be rewareded with an excellent driving machine. If you dont mind spartan interiors go with the evo instead of the s4.
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