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Originally posted by infuryum: I have zero problem being cited for no insurance.
I just see a not-so-fine line between vigilant and ridiculous. I should never have been hassled in the first place.
I say hassled because I was about to say "stopped," but then realized I was ALREADY stopped in my driveway and OUT of my car before she pulled up and hit the lights. The whole situatin from beginning to end was her having a chip on her shoulder and simply exercising her rights because she CAN.
It's the same argument the NRA folks give about owning guns.
Me: "Why do you own a fully automatic rifle with a sniper scope?"
Charleton Heston: "Because it's my right and I can."
It gives no reason WHY something is done. It only justifies that the action is not incorrect. I don't pick and choose the laws I follow. She has more than enough ability to pick and choose the laws she enforces. No turn signal on a deserted street at 1:00am in KELLER, TX, of all places, is not a situation to be nagging and picking.
On that note, what would have happened if I had said "no, I don't think I'll give you my license today" and walked upstairs into my home?
You would have been arrested for obstruction. You weren't being hasseled. Do you think that if you can make it to your driveway and get out of your car, you are somehow immune from citation? That's a bit ridiculous, don't you think?
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Originally posted by Y2KSVT: Originally posted by infuryum: I say hassled because I was about to say "stopped," but then realized I was ALREADY stopped in my driveway and OUT of my car before she pulled up and hit the lights.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that the only way the officer could still ticket you was if they actually "pulled you over"... If you were stopped, your car was shut off, and you were out of your car, then she has no real proof that it was a "traffic stop".
My dad had a similar situation where he was being followed, so he made a few turns, pulled over to the side of the road, turned the car off and threw his keys in the backseat and when the cop finally go up there, turned his lights on and approached his car, there was nothing the officer could do because he hadn't actually pulled him over...
Might be something to look into
But then again Horse might be able to chime in because I'm no expert with the law..
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lol, no, at least not in IL, that would not work. In fact you don't even have to be driving in IL to be convicted of DUI. Acutal physical control of a motor vehicle is all tha is required. That means if you are in the back seat with the keys passed out drunk, you can be convicted. A bit extreme? Maybe, but makes you think twice before getting in that car drunk. Gives the officer the power to stop you before you start it, pull out, and kill someone. High school really should require some courses on state laws, just so people understand them.
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Originally posted by RGSOUNDF: There's a difference between upholding law and order, and harassing citizens, setting traps, tricking them actually into breaking the law. This attitude adopted by cops rightfully gets them their nicknames they are often addressed as.
no one is "tricking" anyone into breaking the law. Time to take some personal responsibility for your actions. Stop blaming everyone else for your mistakes. This is what is wrong with our society today. It's always someone else's fault.
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Why is it that all traffic laws go out the window just because it is late at night and you think you are the only one on the road? That's how accidents happen. If you were really in law enforcement, you should know that. You have an immature attitude.
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Originally posted by infuryum: So I get pulled over in my own driveway last night. Failure to signal a turn. It was one o'clock in the morning and the cop was the only other car on my deserted neighborhood road. She comes up behind me (yes, she) and flips on her lights. She fails to identify herself and requests to see my license.
At this point, I'd been at work for ten hours and, like I said, it's one am and she's obviously looking for someone to hassle. I asked what I did wrong and she mumbles something about failing to signal a turn and how it's a valid traffic stop. Whatever.
She must have run me through Interpol because she took long enough. She came back and checked all around the car to see if she could find something wrong. She asks if I have insurance. I don't. I just purchased the car and I'm about to sell it. So I get cited for lack of financial responsibility. This is the same as simply failing to produce proof of insurance or keep it in the car.
So this happens at one am on 01/20. Five minutes ago, at noon on 01/20, I added this car to my existing policy. The liability insurance card will show effective today, 01/20, until my renewal date in March. Here's my question:
Am I technically covered for the dates of 01/20 until my renewal date? When I take my insrance card showing a start date of 01/20 and a ticket for lack of insurance on 01/20, will it get dismissed?
In Texas, a ticket for failing to produce proof of liability insurance is dismissable if you can produce proof to the court that you were, in fact, covered on that date.
Cops don't really suck. This chick might have had a bad day, but she was a b*tch. I was an jackass right back to her, though. I probably could have handled it better.
Another pig meeting her quota. Think nothing of it, this is Texas and you're a straight white male.
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Originally posted by Sandman333: sigh.....
My thoughts exactly
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Originally posted by Sandman333: Originally posted by RGSOUNDF: There's a difference between upholding law and order, and harassing citizens, setting traps, tricking them actually into breaking the law. This attitude adopted by cops rightfully gets them their nicknames they are often addressed as.
no one is "tricking" anyone into breaking the law. Time to take some personal responsibility for your actions. Stop blaming everyone else for your mistakes. This is what is wrong with our society today. It's always someone else's fault.
I don't think any rhetoric you could give, Sandman, least of all the whole "it's your own fault" drift, is going to convince a single damn person on this site to ignore the fact that there are just as many bad and jicky cops out there as there are bad and jicky people doing other jobs.
Bottom-line is cops do harass and cops do make mistakes. I do the same in my own job--it's only human--however the difference is I don't carry a gun while doing it. I understand the kind of work you guys do is absolutely necessary and most of the time thankless and works for the goal of protecting a society in which someone like myself can be writing his opinion on a message board such as this, however it's just a fact of life that most people see cops as the instrument for robbing away their freedoms.
Most of us are just tired of it.
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Originally posted by Sandman333: Originally posted by 7999: Most of the time cops are young football players that just graduated from high school. They have to be to serve warrants and arrest fighting drunken people. The police tailgated me with their bright lights on while crossing the mountain. It was freezing cold that night. I didn't know it was a cop so I speeded up and left him behind. When I got to the city limit I slowed down and he pulled up beside me and said over the speaker "slow it down a little". Most cops are not the best at judging situations. It is better to try to talk to the judge than to the police.
Funny, I don't fit that profile at all.... I'm near 31 years old, for one. High School was quite a while ago. Sounds to me like you are the recent grad, if that...
I'm a little older than you. Age has nothing to do with wisdom and knowledge. I know 70 year olds who deal drugs. As a matter of fact I know a few old sheriffs who are old enough to retire who deal drugs. When I get stopped by law enforcement I say yes sir and no sir. I never try to talk my way out of a ticket and it seems to irritate the officer sometimes. I believe in laws and human rights. Our society was founded on laws and human rights and without them our society means nothing. Money, drugs, and greed cannot be overlooked when looking at what is motivating people. The world has enough bad people that are willing to break the law for money, drugs, and greed.
I must have got up on the wrong side of the bed today?
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Ok, that I can respect. But when people stereotype all officers as "pigs" or whatnot, then they are just being ignorant themselves. I never said cops don't make mistakes. Those who have known me on here for some time know that I never defend bad cops. But they also know my opinion that it is just as ignorant to want police to do something about crime and then hand them an empty toolbox to complete the job with.
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