I agree with nearly everything Knu wrote. I don't hate them, and I do think that they are probably one of the better values in the car audio world. I just try to push the best values I can find. The only problem I have ever had with them is that they tend to overrate their sensitivity and power handling a little bit.

Their amps are very nice and I believe I have recommended them on a number of occassions.

They do have more flash than performance. If they are selling a sub for 150.00 ea, it is going to cost them under 60.00 to produce. In which case, I would rather have it spent on important things like the motor structure than on chrome plated baskets, and fancy interconnects. Then again, i'm a big fan of ugly subs... smile