Originally posted by bishop375:
You're assuming that everyone in the IT field is going to a full college (you said Freshmen). They don't. Not everyone.



I was using that merely as a time line example. As mentioned above, sixth graders now can program more than what I knew after finishing high school.

Originally posted by bishop375:
What happens when ALL the entry level IT jobs are shipped overseas? What happens to the people who are fresh out of college with no entry level positions available to them?



Never happen. There will always be an entry level job. What it is and the skills it requires will change.

An exception would be the service industry like hotelling and food service because it's impractical to have your every meal shipped from Taiwan.

Originally posted by bishop375:
I, for one, would have been completely screwed in that situation. It was different 5, 10 years ago, when there were only a few people who understood computers enough to help people out over the phone.



Exactly! How much of your job is spent learning new tools, new languages, new protocols, new hardware specs? I bet at least 50% of your time is spent educating yourself "on the job" about what is coming next, not what has been around for years. An enterprising individual will not be fearful of their job in this case because they will take the initiative to stay one step ahead of "overseas" competition.

The time for complacency, where people stood in a line stamping out nuts and bolts for an entire lifetime, is coming to an end in this country. You want to have a job in 10 years, stay ahead of the game. Sorry to sound abrupt but if you want to continue to manufacture tires and sew pants, move to India. That's where THOSE JOBS are.

Originally posted by bishop375:
I've been an IT pro for 6 years and change now, I've seen how it's changed, and I really, really feel for the people that are just coming into it know, regardless of what education they have.



I won't agrue with that. The market is more aggressive right now in every industry. But graduates now are far better trained to handle complex tasks in IT than they were 5 years ago. Believe me, I know. This opens an opportunity for the "old guard" to control management and operations of IT while the grads do the "entry level" programming.


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