Originally posted by Dakmis:
it's a cop! i freak out and kill it a dozen times before he pulls up next to us and finds out i am only learning and he is freaking the sh*t out of me ...
Reminds me of when I took my driving test in a 5 speed VW Rabbit. Friggin' officer takes me to the STEEPEST hill in the area that is not paved & tells me to do a hill stop without spinning the wheels. I had to lift the hand brake with all my strength to get the car to hold on that hill, turned the car off as requested, then proceeded. I spun the wheels, naturally. That guy was a first class turd.
When we got back to the station, he started talkin' like he was failing me for the hill stop, so I asked him. "Your cruiser is an automatic. Let's see YOU do the hill stop with your car.". He grumbled a bit & passed me.
This post got hijacked long ago, so I hope there's no harm here. Good suggestion about "get the car rolling without using the gas pedal". Most people I taught did think of a clutch as an on/off switch. That technique teaches the concept with minimal impact on the car. 
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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