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Originally posted by Shaun G:
Please quote where is say's in "the manual" to use your pry bar and I'll STFU..k?
-Andy
If I tell you to take off a bolt. Do you use your hand or get a wrench to give you better grip and more leverage. It's common sense. If you can't pull it apart with your hands, pry it apart. The manual doesn't tell you to get a wrench everytime it says to take a bolt off does it.
-Andy
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Originally posted by Andy W.:
Get a CD manual and follow the directions for suspension R&R. PM Todras for the manual!
-Andy
You keep telling everyone to get a manual and it obivious that we have no clue about anything because we don't have manual.
I say, I've got a manual and no where in it does it say "then using a pry bar push the A-arm down". What it does say is that once you loosen/remove everything the A-arm will drop low enough and you will remove the strut.
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On the 95's, I will guarantee that as long as the ball joint is in place, no matter what else you take loose, it will not just drop down so the strut can be removed. Maybe the newer models will, but the 95's will have to be forced down, or the ball joints removed. Otherwise, the assembly is just too tight to let it drop. As long as the ball joint is in place, you can use a pry bar, or a jack, or some Goliath with humongous muscles, but somehow the control arm has to be forced down.
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Gotta remove ball joint and pry it down..... it's all easy stuff...
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Oh man. I see so many wrong ways to do it. I am not sure the difference between the pre-98 to post. But It can't be that different. I haven't read everything but, I have not seen anyone mention loosening the rear subframe bolts  . I have never had to remove the sway bar or detach it in anyway. Just loosen the two bolts, and use your pry bar and a hammer and it works ever time like a charm. For the front, pry bar and a good beater and your set.
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for a post 98 I don't need to touch the subframe. I just compress the hell outta the spings, and beat the strut outta the knuckle with a piece of brass. Then tip the knuckle to one side and it comes right out. I don't see why it'd be soo much harder on a pre98???
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Okay, we may be getting to the root of the controversy here. I couldn't compress my springs until I got the struts out of the car. I rented a compressor (well, I bought it and then OReily's bought it back when I was through). There was not enough room in the strut tower to connect the compressor. If I could have compressed the springs, then I agree that the rest of the job would have been much much easier.
Is there some kind of special compressor for these cars? Maybe that's where a lot of the problems are coming from, but no matter how much I tried, I could not use the spring compressor while the struts were still installed.
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You can't get to the top of the springs with the compressor. You end up having to compress like only 3-4 coils. But you have to comprewss them till they touch each other all the way down!!! I use some cheapees my friend has. They work great for the job, I don't know where he got them, but look for the slimest ones you can get. Once you compress the springs it's easy 
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Originally posted by livinsvt:
Oh man. I see so many wrong ways to do it. I am not sure the difference between the pre-98 to post. But It can't be that different. I haven't read everything but, I have not seen anyone mention loosening the rear subframe bolts . I have never had to remove the sway bar or detach it in anyway. Just loosen the two bolts, and use your pry bar and a hammer and it works ever time like a charm. For the front, pry bar and a good beater and your set.
We were talking mainly bout the front,, by why remove subframe bolts on front or back? For the front, there are things you gotta remove before you start thinking about prying.
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Yea I realized you were talking about the front after I posted. But as far as the front, disconnect the sway bar link up top and take the strut bolts out. You don't need to mess with the front subframe at all. That was just on the rear. But that was also the only thing I disconected on the rear, maybe pulling the brake hoses out of the slot to let it drop more, don't remeber. But Thats all I can think of now. Its pretty straight forward.
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