yea that kid is a grundle. but i do find that a lotta stang'ers talk poop about civics and other "rice" cars, and yet about 60% of the civics and crx's around here will smoke a stang whether it be a 6 or 8. me, i enjoy both worlds, my duratec which needs some serious boost, and my daily driver vtec acclude:) im not prejudice, i just hate everyone lol, j/k.