Let me further explain as far as the 5-60 times go as my posts are starting to become as useless as your's blk560. If you're gonna rev up and then go for a 0-60 but not do the same for a 5-60,, then that right there makes them useless in a comparison for this discussion,, though yes useful for real life situations. I think this topic has been discussed enough though and MOST of us understand how it all works, though we say it different. Though if you care to discuss 5-60 times (for whatever reason) with me anymore shoot me a PM, now if you wanna keep discussing the original subject, than go ahead and post it here.