|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 194
CEG\'er
|
OP
CEG\'er
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 194 |
I'm in the process of trading for a "00" Mystique GS with rear drums. How difficult would it be to swap out the drums for disc's? This is my first venture into the Contour/Mystique marque, I have a "98" Stang (which I will be selling  )(done a bit to her) and an "01" Escape (box stock, so far.)
Thanks for any help
Last edited by Andy W.; 01/26/04 08:32 PM.
Sarge43
"00" Tique 2.0L I4 ATX
"98" Mustang 3.8L V6 AT
The reason there's so much ignorance is that those who have it are so eager to share it.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 285
CEG\'er
|
CEG\'er
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 285 |
It shouldn't be too bad considering the parts are a available since it was a factory option. Basically if you tried it on a car that only had rear drums from the factory I would be much harder. You may or may not have to change the hub though, but if you are willing to invest the time and money, it can be done.
'99 Black/Tan SVT
#291 of 2760
Tinted
Mirko Splitter
Pioneer 8400MP & 3-way 6x8's
Clear corners
Custom SVT banner
A-Pillar pod with Volt, Oil Temp & Press. gauges
B&M
Diamond Blue Fogs
White HVAC
the99svttour@yahoo.com
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,693
Hard-core CEG'er
|
Hard-core CEG'er
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,693 |
This should be helpful. The one thing I don't agree on is the removal of the rear brake pressure valves. Otherwise it is a great article. http://www.contour.org/mods/mods.php?s=howto&displayid=1
Jim Johnson
98 SVT
03 Escape Limited
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 976
Veteran CEG\'er
|
Veteran CEG\'er
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 976 |
Originally posted by Big Jim: The one thing I don't agree on is the removal of the rear brake pressure valves. http://www.contour.org/mods/mods.php?s=howto&displayid=1
Your right I'll send Lance the new revised version, DON'T REMOVE THE RESTRICTOR!
I offer PnP Heads for all durtec's details at PnPheads.com or jesse@pnpheads.com for details.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,693
Hard-core CEG'er
|
Hard-core CEG'er
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,693 |
I just realized that I should mention that there are different part numbers on the restrictors if the car has ABS, so use ABS restrictors on a car with ABS and non ABS restrictors if the car is not equipped with ABS. They look just about the same.
Jim Johnson
98 SVT
03 Escape Limited
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 140
CEG\'er
|
CEG\'er
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 140 |
I want to do this. Can't find any reasonably priced used knuckle/caliper/rotor assemblies.
Any one have any?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 140
CEG\'er
|
CEG\'er
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 140 |
Found lots on car-part.com. Any one know if the Cougar knuckles will fit?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 3,887
Hard-core CEG'er
|
Hard-core CEG'er
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 3,887 |
Yes cougar knuckles will fit. As long as they are for a V6 4 wheel disc brake equipped car. I have cougar knuckles on my SVT
06 GMC Sierra 2500HD Dmax/ally
06 Pontiac G6 GT
05 CRF250R
FOR SALE 06 KX65 with riding gear $2700 obo
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,483
Hard-core CEG'er
|
Hard-core CEG'er
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,483 |
The part number for the rear ebrake cables that I hae is F6RZ-2A635-AA, which is a kit with 2 cables and the uprated pulloff springs.
Frank McCoy aka Mod-deth aka Mid Life Crisis aka SVT Doood aka mcgainer is a SCAM ARTIST
Pre98 Zetec - Some Mods
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 7,117
Hard-core CEG'er
|
Hard-core CEG'er
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 7,117 |
Originally posted by Big Jim: I just realized that I should mention that there are different part numbers on the restrictors if the car has ABS, so use ABS restrictors on a car with ABS and non ABS restrictors if the car is not equipped with ABS. They look just about the same.
This thread is for replacing drums with discs. Did any drum brake equipped cars come with ABS?
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 17,248
CEG road warrior
|
CEG road warrior
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 17,248 |
Originally posted by TourDeForce: Originally posted by Big Jim: I just realized that I should mention that there are different part numbers on the restrictors if the car has ABS, so use ABS restrictors on a car with ABS and non ABS restrictors if the car is not equipped with ABS. They look just about the same.
This thread is for replacing drums with discs. Did any drum brake equipped cars come with ABS?
Mine did.
Hector
2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
257HP/259TQ
2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s
RET: 00 Cabernet Red Ford Contour Zetec ATX SUPERCHARGED
160HP/141TQ
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 63
CEG\'er
|
CEG\'er
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 63 |
Originally posted by LoCoZ: Originally posted by TourDeForce: Originally posted by Big Jim: I just realized that I should mention that there are different part numbers on the restrictors if the car has ABS, so use ABS restrictors on a car with ABS and non ABS restrictors if the car is not equipped with ABS. They look just about the same.
This thread is for replacing drums with discs. Did any drum brake equipped cars come with ABS?
Mine did.
'00 tour with rear drums and abs here
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 17,248
CEG road warrior
|
CEG road warrior
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 17,248 |
Just did the drum to disc conversion with SS lines.....time to break these bad boys in!
Hector
2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
257HP/259TQ
2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s
RET: 00 Cabernet Red Ford Contour Zetec ATX SUPERCHARGED
160HP/141TQ
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 219
CEG\'er
|
CEG\'er
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 219 |
Is there an issue with getting the parts from the Cougar's if your going to keep the stock 8 spoke 15"ers? Since the Cougars that came with rear discs have 16"ers.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,145
Hard-core CEG\'er
|
Hard-core CEG\'er
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,145 |
nope the cougar's disc brake setup is the same as the ones on contour's and they have 15's so you are pretty safe.
anyone correct me if im wrong
98.5 Black SE ATX
S&B filter, SVT MAF, optimized SVT TB, mesh grille, removed orange reflectors, painted rear reflector, gutted pre-cats, optimized SVT LIM, 19lb injectors, resonator removed
cant afford an svt but lookin for 1 in nc
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 3,887
Hard-core CEG'er
|
Hard-core CEG'er
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 3,887 |
4 wheel disc V6 cougars are the same as 98.5+ SVTs Early SVTs had slightly bigger calipers different pads and caliper brackets. 98.5 SVTs had the smaller calipers and the offset caliper bracket to make them fit over the bigger rotors. The big difference is the caliper bracket. ON 98.5 SVTs and the V6 4 wheel disc cougars they used a cheaper smaller caliper and made an offset bracket to make it clear the rotor. Contours and Cougars use the same calipers, brackets,and rotors in the rear.... For those equipped with disc brakes that is. Half of my SVT has Cougar brake and suspension parts on it.
06 GMC Sierra 2500HD Dmax/ally
06 Pontiac G6 GT
05 CRF250R
FOR SALE 06 KX65 with riding gear $2700 obo
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 610
Veteran CEG\'er
|
Veteran CEG\'er
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 610 |
could i do it on my I-4 tour? would the cougar knuckles fit?
2002 Cougar
2.5 duratec/ mtx-75
85,0000
Mondeo ST-200 wheels/BFG KDW NT
black/black
Spec Stage 1
Torsen T-2
Trubendz 2.5 flowmaster dual exaust
apexi s-afc II
K&N FIPK
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 17,248
CEG road warrior
|
CEG road warrior
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 17,248 |
Originally posted by ContourGuy9817: could i do it on my I-4 tour? would the cougar knuckles fit?
I did it....
Hector
2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
257HP/259TQ
2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s
RET: 00 Cabernet Red Ford Contour Zetec ATX SUPERCHARGED
160HP/141TQ
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,732
Hard-core CEG'er
|
Hard-core CEG'er
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,732 |
i got all the aprts needed for the conversion that id be willing to sell...
Russell
Oval Port 3L Nearly Done
MTX75 w/ Homebrew Zetec FD and Torsen Complete
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,086
Hard-core CEG\'er
|
Hard-core CEG\'er
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,086 |
Originally posted by LoCoZs/c: Originally posted by TourDeForce: Originally posted by Big Jim: I just realized that I should mention that there are different part numbers on the restrictors if the car has ABS, so use ABS restrictors on a car with ABS and non ABS restrictors if the car is not equipped with ABS. They look just about the same.
This thread is for replacing drums with discs. Did any drum brake equipped cars come with ABS?
Mine did.
My 97 Mystique GS has rear drums with ABS. and Russell how much are you selling those parts for and they will fit on stocks right? I'm on a tight budget must not think about mods ugh  ------------------------ 1997 Mercury Mystique GS ZETEC almost 70K and going strong, needs paint work.
Jason G.
1997 Mercury Mystique GS ZETEC ATX
Born: 11/96
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 4,397
b0x @dm1n
|
b0x @dm1n
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 4,397 |
Take it to PM's and Classifieds!
-Andy
Andy W.
The problem with America is stupidity.
I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment
for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety
labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 219
CEG\'er
|
CEG\'er
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 219 |
ford parts online for the following parts was 670.55
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,089
Hard-core CEG\'er
|
Hard-core CEG\'er
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,089 |
and this year disc conversion will work on any year/trimline/wheelsize contour?
99 V6SE Sport ATX
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,621
Hard-core CEG'er
|
Hard-core CEG'er
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,621 |
IMHO - if this thread is a sticky, it would be greatly appreciated if the mod could sort out the afore information and post a rather organized list of things to get/do.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 17,248
CEG road warrior
|
CEG road warrior
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 17,248 |
I needed: Knuckles New wheel bearings (hub assemblies) ABS sensors rotors pads calipers brake hoses E-brake cable And essentially that was IT!!!  Install was like a 2 hour job....if that.
Hector
2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
257HP/259TQ
2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s
RET: 00 Cabernet Red Ford Contour Zetec ATX SUPERCHARGED
160HP/141TQ
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,621
Hard-core CEG'er
|
Hard-core CEG'er
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,621 |
Originally posted by LocoGSR: Knuckles New wheel bearings (hub assemblies) ABS sensors rotors pads calipers brake hoses E-brake cable
Hec - thanks. Now I don't have ABS on my car - does that mean I can exclude it from the list?
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,621
Hard-core CEG'er
|
Hard-core CEG'er
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,621 |
Looks like a complete kit - what ya'll think? Kit on Ebay
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 17,248
CEG road warrior
|
CEG road warrior
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 17,248 |
Originally posted by R_G: Originally posted by LocoGSR: Knuckles New wheel bearings (hub assemblies) ABS sensors rotors pads calipers brake hoses E-brake cable
Hec - thanks. Now I don't have ABS on my car - does that mean I can exclude it from the list?
Yes....but make sure whatever knuckles you get don't have the ABS.
Hector
2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
257HP/259TQ
2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s
RET: 00 Cabernet Red Ford Contour Zetec ATX SUPERCHARGED
160HP/141TQ
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 6,910
Hard-core CEG'er
|
Hard-core CEG'er
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 6,910 |
Originally posted by LocoGSR: Originally posted by R_G: Originally posted by LocoGSR: Knuckles New wheel bearings (hub assemblies) ABS sensors rotors pads calipers brake hoses E-brake cable
Hec - thanks. Now I don't have ABS on my car - does that mean I can exclude it from the list?
Yes....but make sure whatever knuckles you get don't have the ABS.
why would it make a difference if you don't have ABS 
the abs on the hub are just teeth cut into it, i don't think anything else is different, you just wouldn't need the ABS sensor
- 95 Mystique LS - Zetec/5spd
- 99 Contour SeVT Sport - Duratec/5spd
Official NE-CEG Contour/Mustang Family
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 82
CEG\'er
|
CEG\'er
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 82 |
K so here's the question some of us would like to know can I take brakes from an SVT and put them on my 96 NON ABS rear Drum set up? Can I convert without using abs?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,693
Hard-core CEG'er
|
Hard-core CEG'er
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,693 |
Yes. Then you will have the same brakes as a 96 V6 without ABS.
You should know though, that you will get more improvement by putting the front SVT brakes on it even if you keep the rear drums.
Jim Johnson
98 SVT
03 Escape Limited
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 82
CEG\'er
|
CEG\'er
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 82 |
I was gonna buy the front and back and put them on, just wanted to make sure they'd work without the abs.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 20
New CEG\'er
|
New CEG\'er
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 20 |
I'm pretty sure ABS is enabled on rear-wheel drum brakes.
I can hear the front brakes hitting the ABS system (Which I don't and will never like), but since it's illegal to unplug or disable anti-lock brakes, I'll live with them.
But I never heard them engage on my rear wheels (drums)
I've only had the car for a couple of months, I have to do the rear brakes, so I could take a peek and come back to you.
On my Cavalier, the ABS would hit way too soon (caused me top rear-end a Protege), on the Contour, I would like them to engage a little later, but they're OK (been criving for the last 16 years.)
1995 4-banger Contour GL
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,280
Hard-core CEG'er
|
Hard-core CEG'er
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,280 |
There's a feller on ebay selling both rear hubs with the suspension still intact. It'll be a [censored] to ship; maybe the seller will take the suspension parts off and sell 'em. Anyways, they're items 8072084582 and 8072086647.
|
|
|
|
|