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Essentially, you're not getting a "digital" copy of the original music, which is what this whole thing is all about. Going from WMA -> CD-audio is basically creating a CDA track from the audio output of the WMA, thus an analog copy (like recording a concert on a cassette recorder {but not as crude}). Now, you can create a digital copy of THAT analog track ( cda -> mp3|ogg|etc ), but it's not a TRUE digital copy.

So, you're bypassing the encryption to get an analog copy, which can be differentiated from the original 'digital' track.

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I just think it's crap of how the companies are suing everyone that is downloading music!


For Christs sake people, leave the friggin internet alone! You can't control it, and you will never be able to!!!!!!!!


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Originally posted by TommySVT:
Originally posted by Probzilla:
Whats wrong with WMAs? Thats what I use same thing just different name really. My MP3 players play WMAs too.




wma's take up more space I believe.



I don't beleive so. If there is a difference it's not much. Most players will play both maybe some older ones only play MP3s.


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Originally posted by chemguru:
Essentially, you're not getting a "digital" copy of the original music, which is what this whole thing is all about. Going from WMA -> CD-audio is basically creating a CDA track from the audio output of the WMA, thus an analog copy (like recording a concert on a cassette recorder {but not as crude}). Now, you can create a digital copy of THAT analog track ( cda -> mp3|ogg|etc ), but it's not a TRUE digital copy.

So, you're bypassing the encryption to get an analog copy, which can be differentiated from the original 'digital' track.

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Since when are CDs analog?


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Originally posted by Trogdor Burninator:
Originally posted by chemguru:
Essentially, you're not getting a "digital" copy of the original music, which is what this whole thing is all about. Going from WMA -> CD-audio is basically creating a CDA track from the audio output of the WMA, thus an analog copy (like recording a concert on a cassette recorder {but not as crude}). Now, you can create a digital copy of THAT analog track ( cda -> mp3|ogg|etc ), but it's not a TRUE digital copy.

So, you're bypassing the encryption to get an analog copy, which can be differentiated from the original 'digital' track.

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Since when are CDs analog?





Let's say u have an old LP.

You copy it to ur HD. Its gonna have all the pops and all 'good' things about LPs.


Now you burn a CD.


It is digital.


but is the media digital ?? OOps.. I mean, are the tracks digital quality ??? Hell no.


That is something similar to the Cd variations thgey have: DDA, CDDA, or whatever. The difference is whether the masterization was ALSO digital or analog.


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Originally posted by Probzilla:
Originally posted by TommySVT:
Originally posted by Probzilla:
Whats wrong with WMAs? Thats what I use same thing just different name really. My MP3 players play WMAs too.




wma's take up more space I believe.



I don't beleive so. If there is a difference it's not much. Most players will play both maybe some older ones only play MP3s.



then how come i can fit like 250 Mp3's on a CDR but only 20 WMA's?

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Depends on the quality of the recorded file. If it's a high quality WMA, it'll take a lot of space, as the format isn't nearly as meager as .mp3, but, cd-quality .mp3's can be pretty large, too.


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Originally posted by lovingmycontour:
then how come i can fit like 250 Mp3's on a CDR but only 20 WMA's?




Stupidity? Haha, just kidding...or am I? Regardless, The WMAs I downloaded are about 20% smaller than the mp3s that I ripped from the cd I made from them. The mp3s I ripped were at 160kbps and the WMAs were only 128. You're probably burning your WMAs as .cda audio files instead of the data files that your mp3s are.

The whole reason I wanted them as mp3 in the first place is because you can only use the encrypted files in Napster or WMP (ugh). You can't burn an mp3 cd that way. And Nero wouldn't read the files at all.

I understand that they think they're doing everyone a favor, and I'm not saying that pirating music is ok in the least, but it really bothers me that they think they know my best interests and what I want to do. The attitude that I can only do what they allow me to really chaps my a...let's just say I don't like it.

Eh, I guess it's ok for all the simple minded, computer illiterate folk out there. I'll just sit here with smug satisfaction that I outsmarted their millions of dollars of research and technology.


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Originally posted by DanLeCompte:
I'll just sit here with smug satisfaction that I outsmarted their millions of dollars of research and technology.



:-) WMA files are compressed, and it's lossy compression - you lose something in the signal to get it smaller. Most effects of this are compensated by your ears - but..

If you decompress that signal, you extrapolate information that wasn't there anymore. Burn it to CD, and it's a "so-so" copy of the original. Rip it back and recompress it to MP3, and you now have a mess. You are *again* removing information from the audio stream to get it smaller. Now it can't sound that good.....


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Originally posted by Kyo:
Originally posted by DanLeCompte:
I'll just sit here with smug satisfaction that I outsmarted their millions of dollars of research and technology.



:-) WMA files are compressed, and it's lossy compression - you lose something in the signal to get it smaller. Most effects of this are compensated by your ears - but..

If you decompress that signal, you extrapolate information that wasn't there anymore. Burn it to CD, and it's a "so-so" copy of the original. Rip it back and recompress it to MP3, and you now have a mess. You are *again* removing information from the audio stream to get it smaller. Now it can't sound that good.....





Well if my ears can't tell I'm not gonna tell em. WMAs are just as good as MP3s. It's basically the same concept.


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