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Just thought I would post this here incase anyone is interested. Sounds like a pretty sweet deal and seems to be legit: Turbo auction
1997 Pontiac Grand Prix SE 3800
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we had a fight over that the other week when it was on ebay the first time. I don't know what the final answer was but it may not be that good, but I honestly do not know
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- 99 Contour SeVT Sport - Duratec/5spd
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The kit is crap. It uses injectors that are too small to support more than 150whp and has no fuel managment included.
It also uses the stock exhaust manifold with just an adapter plate to bolt the turbo on. The stock manifold is crap and when we did my turbo my Dad found the stock manifold wouldn't work cause it was too low and would interfere with the downpipe, putting it too close to the A/C compressor.
2000 Rio Red I4 Cougar
200whp & 210wtq at 9psi
254whp & 276wtq with NX 35shot
WRX TD04 Turbo, Cut Short Shifter, Strut Tower Bar, 17" ZN Wheels, Roush Springs, Starion Intercooler, NX 35 shot, HKS SS BOV, Full 3" exhaust,StreetFlight Chip
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So would it be OK for my car? I don't have an ac compressor.
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91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)
FS: SVT rear sway bar
WTB: Very cheap beater
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If you don't have an AC compressor that changes things. It's still not worth it. You pay at least $500 for a rebuilt turbo a used crappy intercooler and injectors that are too small.
You're better off making your own adapter plate and finding your own turbo and getting properly sized injectors and custom intercooler. Or buy a stock Focus manifold and get an adapter plate for it. The Focus manifold is a better design than our manifold.
My dad is seriously thinking of just using the stock manifold when he turbo's his Focus. There are several custom turbo'd Foci running around with that kind of setup and they say it's fine. Also the higher placement of the Focus manifold would make routing the downpipe around the AC compressor easier if you had one.
2000 Rio Red I4 Cougar
200whp & 210wtq at 9psi
254whp & 276wtq with NX 35shot
WRX TD04 Turbo, Cut Short Shifter, Strut Tower Bar, 17" ZN Wheels, Roush Springs, Starion Intercooler, NX 35 shot, HKS SS BOV, Full 3" exhaust,StreetFlight Chip
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Let me know if your dad makes that adapter plate,, I'd be interested in it. Also can I make pipes out pvc piping? That's all I know how to cut.
98.5 SVT
91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)
FS: SVT rear sway bar
WTB: Very cheap beater
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog: Let me know if your dad makes that adapter plate,, I'd be interested in it. Also can I make pipes out pvc piping? That's all I know how to cut.
yes you can.
i made my "headers" out of play dough, and i copied MSDS design just like weapon rice did!
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OOoooo sweeet, maybe I can mount the turbo above the hood so it'll stay really cool. Or mount it where the a/c compressor was and then it could also serve as the a/c compressor since it'd be in the same spot right?
98.5 SVT
91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)
FS: SVT rear sway bar
WTB: Very cheap beater
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Originally posted by Seawulf: The kit is crap. It uses injectors that are too small to support more than 150whp and has no fuel managment included.
It also uses the stock exhaust manifold with just an adapter plate to bolt the turbo on. The stock manifold is crap and when we did my turbo my Dad found the stock manifold wouldn't work cause it was too low and would interfere with the downpipe, putting it too close to the A/C compressor.
Do you know for sure that the Zetec in the Cougar is the same as the Contour....there are so many slight differences between the Focus/Contour/ZX2.
Hector
2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
257HP/259TQ
2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s
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The Cougar/Contour/ZX2 Zetec are the same, if they have VCT. Obviously there are some Contiques/ZX2s without VCT, but no Cougars without VCT. The Focus Zetec, though internally basically identical(the block anyway), is externally different enough so most things won't bolt up.
My dad has my blown engine and is using it as a template to make his new turbo setup for his Focus. He's gonna use it to bolt on and fab the turbo so he has as little down time on the car when he actually turbo's it. Doesn't want the Focus down for two months like my Cougar was.
He bought a ZX3 exhaust manifold and oil pan. He said they bolted up perfectly though the exhaust manifold and oil pan are not physically identical to our stock units. The exhaust manifold looks totally different and the oil pan has the exhaust channel in the oposite location.
The engine I bought to replace my blown engine was off a ZX2. It has VCT and fuel injectors that are identical to my Cougar and my Dad's Focus. It was a direct bolt-in.
2000 Rio Red I4 Cougar
200whp & 210wtq at 9psi
254whp & 276wtq with NX 35shot
WRX TD04 Turbo, Cut Short Shifter, Strut Tower Bar, 17" ZN Wheels, Roush Springs, Starion Intercooler, NX 35 shot, HKS SS BOV, Full 3" exhaust,StreetFlight Chip
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