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It's simple math people...the oracle told NEO that smith was his EXACT opposite. When you're dealing with numbers, opposite numbers cancel themselves out. So, by letting smith take over himself, neo "cancelled" out smith, which is what destroyed him. I don't know WTF anyone is talking about "machines working through neo." Did you miss the entire speech in reloaded about the mathematics of it all? Definitley made me giggle though. I liked it, the special effects were pretty damn good. The last fight scene gives a good idea of what the superman movie is going to be like. The only thing I would have liked to see is what's going ot happen with this "peace." The architect said everyone still plugged into the matrix will be freed. Alright...so, where are the machines going to get all their power from now? Originally posted by mavrock:
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The machine didnt work thru neo....
The machines did work through neo. That was part of the deal to stop the war, which is why he went to the machine world. Smith was getting too strong for anyone to control so made a deal that would allow himself to be used as a conduit for the machines to destroy smith, while sacrificing himself in order to help the machines and save zion. That's why when smith assimilated neo at the end, he said 'it's a trick' and then the machine that neo was 'plugged' into sent the virus or whatever it was through neo in order to infect and destroy all the smiths.
If you go back to what the Oracle said, it makes more sense: she told Neo that Smith was his negative opposite, and that the Architect's job was to keep the equation balanced. Neo and Smith together balanced the equation, so when Smith assimilated Neo, the equation was unbalanced, allowing the Matrix to re-balance itself by destroying Smith.
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Originally posted by TheGreatOne:
The architect said everyone still plugged into the matrix will be freed. Alright...so, where are the machines going to get all their power from now?
I thought just the ones that wanted to be freed were allowed to go. Not everyone.
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Originally posted by todras:
Originally posted by TheGreatOne:
The architect said everyone still plugged into the matrix will be freed. Alright...so, where are the machines going to get all their power from now?
I thought just the ones that wanted to be freed were allowed to go. Not everyone.
That is correct. Only the ones who WANT to be freed will be.
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Originally posted by freakshow:
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It was the worst one yet. it had no place being in thearters, everything was over done in the bad way, the [censored] buble effect of the water, the face, the physocology 101 crap. The way trinity died was the most hillariuse thing i've ever seen. And i'm happy she's dead i'm happy it's over. They took my faivorite movie of all time and ruined it. they took it, put it in a bleander drank it, [censored] it out, combined it with thier piss lit it on fire and then force fead it to me. and that was only reloaded, revolutions was like 20 times worse then that. i hated it so much i want to go back in time and kill everyone that worked on the matrix so that reloaded and revolutions won't ever happen. there i'm now done. but i'll still hate it. it will be the worst thing i've seen in my life. and i feel bad for the future kids who see revolutions or reloaded and think the original was that same [censored] steaming pile of crap.
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I could have sworn at the end with the oracle on the park bench, she asked "what about the others?" and he said "Those who are not already out will be freed" or something to that effect.  Originally posted by mavrock:
Originally posted by todras:
Originally posted by TheGreatOne:
The architect said everyone still plugged into the matrix will be freed. Alright...so, where are the machines going to get all their power from now?
I thought just the ones that wanted to be freed were allowed to go. Not everyone.
That is correct. Only the ones who WANT to be freed will be.
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I believe it was "Those who are ready will be freed"
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i saw it sunday. i like how someone said something about the last exile. what does that girl play in the whole movie. since she makes the sun rise all "pretty" just fore neo...hmmmm
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you know... i think this $%^% w/ the whole peace thing is terrible- it doesn't resolve the movie at all- how are the machines supposed to keep functioning? i don't see how humans could just agree to keep others in the matrix, and if they DID let all the humans out, the machines would just die, because that's where they get their "fuel"
the end shoulda been an all out battle where neo just kicks their @sses, i'm sorry, i'm not one for a typical ending, but that seems like the only option that is "fair" to the humans
PS- that scene where trinity flies up into the clouds, that is one of the most amazing scenes EVER
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Yeah I didn't really understand how the little girl played into it all.
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One of the primary reasons the little girl was placed into the movie was to bring a focus to the line "machines without purpose are deleted." She was a machine with no purpose which is why she was being smuggled into the Matrix for safe-keeping by her father.
The Wachowski brothers wanted to bring a little focus on to that because it is for that reason that Smith is deleted at the end -- once he kills Neo he no longer has a purpose and so he must be deleted.
Aside from the more obvious plot point, there are also some more philosophical reasons to having her in the movie. Sati, her name, is a Buddhist concept. It is a protection against evil encroaching upon good by keeping the mind focused on its' present goal.
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