Oh yeah. That sale price for the Pioneer is a little high. My cousin's was closer to $60 CDN. I don't know model #'s on pioneer stuff. Is it the sub with the fake metel pattern on it, or does it have the five lumps that kind of make it look like a wheel? Either way they work just fine, and my cousin beat the crap out of it. The only reason it doesn't work anymore (it actually does still work) Is because when he loaded his golf clubs he forgot about the Sub and speared it. Get a grille to protect the sub!