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As many of you might know, I have a 98 Contour. I have successfully programmed several new keys for this car. I also understand the electronics behind the scenes.
Now, I have a 2003 Lincoln Aviator (with PATS, of course). I have made a cheap-o key without the expensive PATS chip and epoxied a PATS chip I had laying around to it. This is the same kind of PATS chip that works with the 98 Contour. I can't get the Aviator to take the new chip. I haven't tried another one yet (but I have several at my disposal thanks to Mobil SpeedPass!)
The question is this: Does anyone know of a new kind of PATS system for the 2003MY F/L/M cars?
The keys certainly look different than my '01 LS8.
My service DVD only goes to 2002. Google hasn't brought anything up, either. Thanks,
-Chris
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Yes the systems did change My 95 Mondeo has a Bosch system and later cars have a Siemens system. To find out look at the original key/transponder it has a FCC compliance #. Go to their website and you can punch in the number and it will give you Lots of details inc frquencies etc about the particular unit. Hope this helps.
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Presumably you're aware that vehicles built in 1998 onwards require two keys to program a third. Don't know if key chips are compatible with the earlier system, but doubt it. My suggestion; park the Aviator for a week, drive the Contour, save enough on gas to pay for new key.
98 Mystique LS v6 atx 163,000km
97 Contour LX v6 atx 163,000km
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I do know that the older PATS style key is not interchangable with the newer style that has a different shape. The newer Ford key is known as a "jewel" key and has a blue oval Ford emblem on the head (the "jewel"). I made the mistake of having two keys cut for a customer without asking what the old ones looked like and they would not program.
Horseydug, do you have something against Lincolns?
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Yeah, mine is the pretty new jewel kind. It's mostly square. I wonder what else uses that kind of transponder (man, I am cheap!)
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Here is what I found: $19.99 @ steetkeys.com
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CDT Audio/Ascendant Audio/Rockford/JBL/Knukonceptz setup
'00 SE Sport ATX
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On a related note, some of the people over at Escape-Central ( www.escape-central.com ) have been buying clear PATS keys (the old type like our cars use) on ebay. I'm not sure I would want one, but it does look kind of neat.
Jim Johnson
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I love it!
'01 Escape XLT V6 on S100
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Check out this link. I have a key cut to fit my ignition but no chip and have no other chipped keys. Going to order a unprogrammed key and try this out. Will let know how it goes. Anyone tried this before? Check link http://www.fordf150.net/howto/patskey.php - dstock
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Same info in FAQ here: PATS programming Problem is later cars (Mar 98+) require 2 coded PATS keys to produce a 3rd. I'm afraid you're faced with having to have a dealer rekey/reprogram your car, although original selling dealer may have record of key info thereby avoiding rekeying.
98 Mystique LS v6 atx 163,000km
97 Contour LX v6 atx 163,000km
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