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Originally posted by Antiramie:
Morals applying to which aspect of this topic?
Applying to the fact that making pot legal just cuz alcohol is legal is wrong. Like that guy said, two wrongs don't make a rite. I drink, but I still think alcohol is bad and probably shouldn't be legal.
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I'm speaking from someone who has almost destroyed their life from drugs, and I know all of you can smoke an eighth a day a still function perfectly...  I've had two friends die from substance abuse and countless people I know have completely fried their brains from drug use, and almost all of them have one thing in common - they started with pot. If pot was the only drug in the world, then it wouldn't be so bad. The difference between marijuana and alcohol, is that you can assume alcohol in moderation. You can't smoke a bowl and not feel anything, but you can have a glass of wine and be completely fine. We don't need anymore drugs easily accesible for people to use. There are plenty of stoners that don't use any other drugs, but the majority of potheads use other drugs and/or have experimented with other drugs. More people will smoke if it is legal. It should stay illegal to protect those people from it. I'm guessing most of you have done it a few times, but when you've smoked several bowls a day for months, like I used to do, you know a hell of lot more about the effects it has on you and other people. If it was legal, the price of it would drop significantly, because it would be produced in much higher quantities. People would be able to buy a lot more, and then smoke it a lot more. I'm sure we could generate plenty of money from taxing it, but most of that money would have to go towards regulating it. Marijuana taxes aren't going to improve education and healthcare. It's only going to make people stupid and more unhealthy than they already are.
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Your life is only what you make of it. Sorry to hear what happened to you Fat Mike, but who is to blame?
If people want to smoke 300 cigarettes a day...fine (as long as it doesn't hurt me). But when you end up with lung cancer, don't start whining and suing the government (aside from the population who started smoking during the times when there was no concrete correlation between cigarette smoke and cancer.
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Originally posted by Antiramie:
Your life is only what you make of it. Sorry to hear what happened to you Fat Mike, but who is to blame?
If people want to smoke 300 cigarettes a day...fine (as long as it doesn't hurt me). But when you end up with lung cancer, don't start whining and suing the government (aside from the population who started smoking during the times when there was no concrete correlation between cigarette smoke and cancer.
Apparently you missed my earlier post were I did take the blame for my actions. Maybe you should scroll back up and read it.
I mean hell, why not let people do people do heroin? I mean, they're only hurting themselves, right? Tell that to my former roommate whose dad died from a heroin overdose. The only purpose of drugs is to escape reality, and I don't see how that benifits anyone.
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Originally posted by Fat Mike:
I mean hell, why not let people do people do heroin? I mean, they're only hurting themselves, right? Tell that to my former roommate whose dad died from a heroin overdose.
Because you can't overdose from marijuana (in terms of causing death)? Shockingly, you can from alcohol. *gasp*
Originally posted by Fat Mike:
The only purpose of drugs is to escape reality, and I don't see how that benifits anyone.
A lot of people think hockey is boring to watch; however, I don't. 
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everytime i was about to hit 'reply' to argue a point, Antiramie said almost precisely what i was going to say. PERSONALLY... i do not know of some fine chronic destroying lives of occasional users or long term users. while i do agree that it is bad for society to have a bunch of 'functional potheads' running around, i do believe, if regulated, it would not be anywhere near detrimental as many of you have argued. the tv ads are CROCK and i put them along the same lines as polititian compaign ads. just bull. 
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Originally posted by Antiramie:
Originally posted by Fat Mike:
I mean hell, why not let people do people do heroin? I mean, they're only hurting themselves, right? Tell that to my former roommate whose dad died from a heroin overdose.
Because you can't overdose from marijuana (in terms of causing death)? Shockingly, you can from alcohol. *gasp*
Originally posted by Fat Mike:
The only purpose of drugs is to escape reality, and I don't see how that benifits anyone.
A lot of people think hockey is boring to watch; however, I don't.
I was never worried about ODing on marijuana. My point is that marijuana can consume your life, as can alcohol. I do drink still, but never on a daily basis. I know alcohol can be terrible if abused, but making alcohol illegal would never work (IE, prohibition). We don't know the full effects marijuana would have on our society, because it is illegal, and I can't possibly see pot changing things for the better. We don't need another drug readily available.
And you can't even compare marijuana use to watching hockey.
Do you use marijuana on a regular basis, or have you?
Anyways, speaking of sh*t that's bad for you, I'm going to go to McDonalds. I'll continue this conversation later.
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Originally posted by Fat Mike:
And you can't even compare marijuana use to watching hockey.
I wasn't comparing the physical effects that each provide. I was merely providing an example of personal taste.
Originally posted by Fat Mike:
Do you use marijuana on a regular basis, or have you?
If by "regular" you mean daily, then no.
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Originally posted by Fat Mike:
I'm sure we could generate plenty of money from taxing it . Marijuana taxes aren't going to improve education and healthcare.
Right, and the taxes on booze and smokes are NOT used in the general funds of every state...
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Originally posted by Mattsmobile:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
making pot legal just cuz alcohol is legal isn't rite.
If you look at a side by side comparison with
Marijuana Vs.Alcohol Alcohol is deadly compared to Marijuana, no one has ever died from marijuana. I say make alcohol Illegal and Pot legal  I have never heard of someone smokin a joint and then beating his wife or fighting another human being, alcohols effects are alarming to how you feel high. When you smoke you are relaxed and passive. When people say it is a gateway its because they have never tried it. There are a million and a halfreason people move to harder stuff, you cant blame that on pot. I know tons of people that smoke and never go onto harder stuff. Like i said before think for yourself and dont let others think for you.
I think it will be Legal soon, you can see all the trouble it costs being illegal, not to mention people are begining to realize its potential. 
Matt
No one has ever died from marijuana??? Man you must have been high when you typed that post that or you've smoked too much over the years and have about 2 brain cells left.
I am more or less indifferent about whether or not it gets legalized. I think it has some decent uses for a very select few medicinally, those few who cannot use pain killers for whatever reasons. Other than that the "potential" of marijuana is "potentially" making you a babbling idiot and "potentially" taking away ANY ambition you may have once had etc etc.
The "facts" on this issue are so blurred it's unreal due to each side throwing tons of supposed "facts" out there in the media and especially on the net to support what they want to do. Not much different than anything else but it seems worse with the pot issue.
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If people want to smoke marijuana now, they do; if they don't, they don't, simple as that. You won't find many people who don't smoke marijuana just because it's illegal.
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You can disagree all you want, but for 99% of people it's true. Marijuana was often easier for me to get, smoke,etc. than a cigarette.
And you are qualified to speak for 99% of all humans how??? 
Seriously though that is yet another bogus BS wannabe "fact" Think about how many people don't smoke pot becuase they get drug tested at their jobs. Guaranteed the amount of people in that category alone that would START smoking pot if it was legalized would account for more than your 1% of the population.
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