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Originally posted by freakshow:
Originally posted by Mattsmobile:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
making pot legal just cuz alcohol is legal isn't rite.
If you look at a side by side comparison with
Marijuana Vs.Alcohol Alcohol is deadly compared to Marijuana, no one has ever died from marijuana. I say make alcohol Illegal and Pot legal  I have never heard of someone smokin a joint and then beating his wife or fighting another human being, alcohols effects are alarming to how you feel high. When you smoke you are relaxed and passive. When people say it is a gateway its because they have never tried it. There are a million and a halfreason people move to harder stuff, you cant blame that on pot. I know tons of people that smoke and never go onto harder stuff. Like i said before think for yourself and dont let others think for you.
I think it will be Legal soon, you can see all the trouble it costs being illegal, not to mention people are begining to realize its potential. 
Matt
No one has ever died from marijuana??? Man you must have been high when you typed that post that or you've smoked too much over the years and have about 2 brain cells left.
If you could show me one instance that someone has OD'ed on Marijuana than i will ship my car to you in an instance, shoot i will give you my life savings. It is impossible. You need to crawl out from under the rock and do some research. I cant stress this enough. The facts are out there, whether you choose to ignore them is your choice, but educauted yourself. You will be surprised by some things you find out about marijuana.
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Any drug dealer will tell you that smoking pot is good. They will tell you that doing heroine is good also.
I don't think pot or alcohol is good for a person. I think they should legalize drugs so that they can tax drugs. They are not doing a very good job of stopping people from taking drugs and look at all of the tax money it is costing taxpayers.
You have to consider all of the crimes committed by drug addicts before you realize how bad drugs really are. Drug abuse is not good.
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My take on this subject is this, Before MJ was made illegal it was not a very pervasive problem. It was not a problem because unlike the communities of today the people back then took people in their families or communities doing drugs seriously and most people didn't just turn their heads and ignore problems because it was easier than addressing the problem. The problem we have today is too many people want the government to requlate everything unpleasant so they donot have to take responsibility for their actions or those of their friends and family. Legal or illegal the problem of drug abuse isn't going to go away and i would just assume that it be legalized and all money derived from the taxes go towards truthful, honest drug education ( not the DARE scare tactics ) and treatment programs for people who truly can't control their addictions. Most efective way to fix the drug problem is to stop spending so much time on trying to get the government to make laws to protect us and start taking care of our own families and to get out there to meet your neighbors and let them know to call you if they see your kid smoking pot or drinking and let them know you will do the same for them. It is time to stop ignoring addiction in family members and start giving out a little tough love, it is time to stop saying is's not my problem when we see the kid down the street getting high, and most of all it is time to let our neighbors know it is ok for them to snatch our kids up by the scruff of the neck when they are doing wrong. This country is doomed to fail if we continue to wait for government policy to fix all of the wrongs becaust the fact of the matter is that most of washington doesn't give a damn about us and that is our fault also.
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Originally posted by freakshow:
And you are qualified to speak for 99% of all humans how??? 
Seriously though that is yet another bogus BS wannabe "fact" Think about how many people don't smoke pot becuase they get drug tested at their jobs. Guaranteed the amount of people in that category alone that would START smoking pot if it was legalized would account for more than your 1% of the population.
I know plenty of people that get tested on the job. They are still able to smoke weed, there are easy ways off hiding it. Only reason I don't smoke it cuz it's makes u dumbified. I don't think a bunch of people with good jobs (ones where you get tested,etc.) would jump on weed if it was legal. Seriously, think about that. I don't think many employeed people are sitting there thinking if only it was legal how high they would get that weekend,etc.
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Originally posted by Mattsmobile:
Oh and by the way if you really beleive all these anit- MArijuana ads on tv, please WAKE UP!!! You are being fed a bunch of BS. Do your own research.
Precisely. If you do your own research, you will see that there has never been a single person to lose his/her life due to the effects of marijuana. I'm speaking health-wise, not due to the fact that someone might have made bad choices while under the influence...
I was a "wake n bake" for almost two years, so i can see the other side of the arguement. As I have stated in the past, marijuana is not for everyone. Unfortunately, SVTCuervo missed the entire point. This thread is not a discussion coming from a bunch of potheads who just want a legal reason to get high. People are going to smoke whether it is legal or not. The keypoint of my arguement for legalization is that there are some good uses for MJ. Equally important is the fact that our prisons are crowded with the "wrong" kind of criminals. As was previously stated, rapists, murderers, and child molesters are serving minimal terms behind bars while those caught in possession of MJ are serving serious time. As a side note, I quit smoking five years ago and usually only smoke once or twice per year, if even that.
I could even go so far as to bring up many states' laws concerning rock cocaine and powder cocaine and how there are two extremely different sets of punishment for possessing equal amounts of each, but that's an entirely different topic, possibly racially motivated.
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If we legalize MJ, then we MUST eliminate socialist programs such as unemployment. If people want to [censored] themselves up, fine. But that better not have any effect on me or other hardworking people. I will be damned if I am going to pay a [censored] load of taxes to take care of a bunch of unemployable worthless pot heads. New Theory: Democrats plan to regain power in America! legalize MJ. More pot heads = more democrats = democrat in White House.
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Originally posted by SVTCuervo:
Do your selfs a favor people. Get a calculator and try to used your little "Burned out brain" to calculate how much money you've spent on Dank this week...month....year...your whole life. Chances are you can't count that high(no pun intended) anymore. You could have souped up a bad ass Contour with that kind of money.
Lets hope this country never comes to that point.
Well I say legalize it. I smoke about 1-2 times a week for fun and relaxation. As far as "burned out brain" goes, you must be picturing everyone who smokes pot as another "Spicolli" when that is not the case. Hell, looking at my w-2 from last year it seems that this "burned out brained" 23 year old pot-head cleared $62K last year. Maybe if you had a personel experience with it I would actually give your point a chance, but seeing as it seems you are basing your argument on stereotypes it doesn't really mean that much to me.
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Originally posted by SKWAT:
If we legalize MJ, then we MUST eliminate socialist programs such as unemployment. If people want to [censored] themselves up, fine. But that better not have any effect on me or other hardworking people. I will be damned if I am going to pay a [censored] load of taxes to take care of a bunch of unemployable worthless pot heads.
New Theory: Democrats plan to regain power in America! legalize MJ. More pot heads = more democrats = democrat in White House.
In case you havev't noticed anyone who wants to [censored] themselves up on drugs can. It was a lot easier for me to get just about any type of drug when going to high school than it was to get ciggarettes or alcohol.
Fact is we have thousands of people in this country serving time for minor pot offences. I beleive last time I checked it costs 30k+ a year to house each inmate. That is a lot of money that could be spent on better things.
Face it people the war on drugs will never win. We have been spending BILLIONS a year to try and stop it. Yet all that money and man power has done just about nothing in the big picture to even slow it down.
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Originally posted by Mattsmobile:
Originally posted by freakshow:
Originally posted by Mattsmobile:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
making pot legal just cuz alcohol is legal isn't rite.
If you look at a side by side comparison with
Marijuana Vs.Alcohol Alcohol is deadly compared to Marijuana, no one has ever died from marijuana. I say make alcohol Illegal and Pot legal I have never heard of someone smokin a joint and then beating his wife or fighting another human being, alcohols effects are alarming to how you feel high. When you smoke you are relaxed and passive. When people say it is a gateway its because they have never tried it. There are a million and a halfreason people move to harder stuff, you cant blame that on pot. I know tons of people that smoke and never go onto harder stuff. Like i said before think for yourself and dont let others think for you.
I think it will be Legal soon, you can see all the trouble it costs being illegal, not to mention people are begining to realize its potential.
Matt
No one has ever died from marijuana??? Man you must have been high when you typed that post that or you've smoked too much over the years and have about 2 brain cells left.
If you could show me one instance that someone has OD'ed on Marijuana than i will ship my car to you in an instance, shoot i will give you my life savings. It is impossible. You need to crawl out from under the rock and do some research. I cant stress this enough. The facts are out there, whether you choose to ignore them is your choice, but educauted yourself. You will be surprised by some things you find out about marijuana.
Matt
Before you talk to people about crawling out from under rocks and doing research why don't you reseach what YOU typed. Your original post never said OVERDOSED nor did mine say anything about OVERDOSING. I was talking about people dying from accidents and whatnot beacuse they were stoned...period. Apology accepted and go to hell...thanks.
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Originally posted by Antiramie:
Originally posted by SVTCuervo:
Personaly I have nothing against you. But if your are going to state your "reasons for legalization" then I'm damn sure gonna tell you what I think.
Except in the world of civilized discussion, people gain points with facts and constructive ideas...not with pointless head-shaking graemlins and repeated mud-slinging.
Bravo! Well stated Antiramie.
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