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Originally posted by 18psi2300:
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What about the women who dont lie about this stuff? What about the nasty pieces of [censored] that rape women everyday? A lot of guilty men are still out of jail and doing it to women.....Hopefully justice is served. Innocent or guilty she has a right to accuse him if she believes something really happened. If you dont like it well this is america TOO DAMN BAD. In other countries He would have been killed without a trial.
So in your opinion, what's the greater injustice; the guilty man walking free, or the innocent man in jail?
Neither is more injust than the other. What if some man raped your daughter? or someone accused your son of raping her? Its like a suspected child molester, would i rather have an innocent man in jail if there was a chance that he really wasnt innocent and would go rape little kids then Probably. No one knows what happened but them she has a right to ACCUSE him if she thinks he did something wrong. She isnt the one whos CONVICTING HIM. Shes telling her side I believe everyone has a right to that. Like I said In other countries he would have been executed with out a trial.
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Originally posted by 18psi2300:
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Ok, do you have any evidence of the many men who were "framed" or are you just talking out of your ass?
Yeah, there's been 2 cases that I know of in the past 3 years, in the small town (pop. 9000) that I grew up in. Hell one girl admitted that she made it all up while on the stand (after the local media and gossip had already *convicted* him)... 
2 cases out of THOUSANDS around the country? Wow, that's a f*cking epidemic!!!!
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Originally posted by linabby:
Originally posted by 18psi2300:
Simple fact...women lie about this stuff every day! So many innocent men are in jail cause some [censored] cryed wolf. Only difference here is Kobe can afford good enough lawyers to get him off, most guys(victims) can't.
What about the women who dont lie about this stuff? What about the nasty pieces of [censored] that rape women everyday? A lot of guilty men are still out of jail and doing it to women. I dont look at it from her side or kobes side. I look at it from the familys sides. Think about their parents. Some jerk puts his hands on my daughter damn right I'd want her to do something about it. On the other side someone accuses my son I'd give him the benefit of the doubt but wonder if my parenting went wrong somewhere. Hopefully justice is served. Innocent or guilty she has a right to accuse him if she believes something really happened. If you dont like it well this is america TOO DAMN BAD. In other countries He would have been killed without a trial.
Well, I can see where your coming from linabby. I know 2 women who have been raped, 1 was my ex. It happened after I broke up with her. The way they reacted and delt with the situation was basiclly the complete opposite of what Kobe's accuser did imediatly following the alleged rape.
But on the same token I also see it from 18psi's point as 1 girl in my high school and 2 girls at my college tried to cry rape when in fact it was not. They were all eventually found out by the inconsistacies in their stories. Most of which seems really close to the holes that are popping up in Kobe's accuser's story.
Also I have my doubts as to what she's saying and what actually happened.
Disclaimer: the following is just my personel opinion.
Do you really think Kobe would have to rape someone to get laid? He can walk down the street and have just about any girl he wanted. I seriouslly doubt he would risk his carrer or lifestyle by raping some random not too good looking girl.
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Do you really think Kobe would have to rape someone to get laid? He can walk down the street and have just about any girl he wanted. I seriouslly doubt he would risk his carrer or lifestyle by raping some random not too good looking girl.
Nobody though a fine upstanding citizen like OJ Simpson would murder two people, either.
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Originally posted by PackRat:
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Do you really think Kobe would have to rape someone to get laid? He can walk down the street and have just about any girl he wanted. I seriouslly doubt he would risk his carrer or lifestyle by raping some random not too good looking girl.
Nobody though a fine upstanding citizen like OJ Simpson would murder two people, either.
2 completely different scenerio's. O.J. had a history of abusing women and drug use. He always was a little of his rocker. FAR from a fine upstanding citizen. 
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Originally posted by linabby:
Originally posted by 18psi2300:
Originally posted by linabby:
What about the women who dont lie about this stuff? What about the nasty pieces of [censored] that rape women everyday? A lot of guilty men are still out of jail and doing it to women.....Hopefully justice is served. Innocent or guilty she has a right to accuse him if she believes something really happened. If you dont like it well this is america TOO DAMN BAD. In other countries He would have been killed without a trial.
So in your opinion, what's the greater injustice; the guilty man walking free, or the innocent man in jail?
Neither is more injust than the other. What if some man raped your daughter? or someone accused your son of raping her? Its like a suspected child molester, would i rather have an innocent man in jail if there was a chance that he really wasnt innocent and would go rape little kids then Probably. No one knows what happened but them she has a right to ACCUSE him if she thinks he did something wrong. She isnt the one whos CONVICTING HIM. Shes telling her side I believe everyone has a right to that. Like I said In other countries he would have been executed with out a trial.
I agree with you on some of the things you say but I think the point some others are trying to make is waht if she ISN'T telling her side but A LIE?
I don't think Kobe did it but I don't know and haven't seen all the evidence so I guess we'll see but what I do find sad is this:
There are so many woman that do lie about this stuff in order to get money from a superstar athlete, singer etc. that these days when something like this happens to a famous person everyone almost HAS to stop for a second and wonder if this is just another lying gold digger. Rape is a serious thing and it's just sad that so many gold digging bitc-es have made it that much harder for women who have ACTUALLY been raped to get justice. I do think a lot of people are giving Kobe the benefit of the doubt because he has a reputation as being a genuine and respectful person that most don't beleive he could do this. I guess the truth remains to be seen.
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Originally posted by ASSVT:
Originally posted by PackRat:
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Do you really think Kobe would have to rape someone to get laid? He can walk down the street and have just about any girl he wanted. I seriouslly doubt he would risk his carrer or lifestyle by raping some random not too good looking girl.
Nobody though a fine upstanding citizen like OJ Simpson would murder two people, either.
2 completely different scenerio's. O.J. had a history of abusing women and drug use. He always was a little of his rocker. FAR from a fine upstanding citizen.
Not according to the black population in this country.
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Originally posted by PackRat:
Originally posted by ASSVT:
Originally posted by PackRat:
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Do you really think Kobe would have to rape someone to get laid? He can walk down the street and have just about any girl he wanted. I seriouslly doubt he would risk his carrer or lifestyle by raping some random not too good looking girl.
Nobody though a fine upstanding citizen like OJ Simpson would murder two people, either.
2 completely different scenerio's. O.J. had a history of abusing women and drug use. He always was a little of his rocker. FAR from a fine upstanding citizen.
Not according to the black population in this country.
And your point? According to nazi's, and skinheads Hitler was a hero. Does that make them right?
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Originally posted by PackRat:
2 cases out of THOUSANDS around the country? Wow, that's a f*cking epidemic!!!!
Man, manybe you should do some research before spouting off...it's a well known fact that theres been a huge problem with false rape allegations...Link
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With the cooperation of the police agency of a small metropolitan community, 45 consecutive, disposed, false rape allegations covering a 9 year period were studied. False rape allegations constitute 41% of the total forcible rape cases (109) reported during this period. These false allegations appear to serve three major functions for the complainants: providing an alibi, seeking revenge, and obtaining sympathy and attention. False rape allegations are not the consequence of a gender-linked aberration, as frequently claimed, but reflect impulsive and desperate efforts to cope with personal and social stress situations. [False rape allegations are reported in similar numbers at college campuses; approximately 50% of rape charges are admitted to be false by the accuser.
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Originally posted by ASSVT:
Originally posted by PackRat:
Originally posted by ASSVT:
Originally posted by PackRat:
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Do you really think Kobe would have to rape someone to get laid? He can walk down the street and have just about any girl he wanted. I seriouslly doubt he would risk his carrer or lifestyle by raping some random not too good looking girl.
Nobody though a fine upstanding citizen like OJ Simpson would murder two people, either.
2 completely different scenerio's. O.J. had a history of abusing women and drug use. He always was a little of his rocker. FAR from a fine upstanding citizen.
Not according to the black population in this country.
And your point? According to nazi's, and skinheads Hitler was a hero. Does that make them right?
It all depends on your POV.
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