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The main concern isn't necessarily high dyno #'s....it's putting the power to the ground. My car dynoed 229hp/214tq to the wheels on 5psi, yet went 13.8 at 103mph with a 2.3 60' time. I don't care about dyno #'s, I care about "real world" performance. The 3 liter is probably the least expensive yet relaible way to go provided you can turn a wrench, while the turbo probably has the highest pricetag, yet near limitless power potential(forged internal dependant), and good reliabilty to boot!  Good luck on your decision!
2002 ZO6...462whp/410wtq
pretty darn fast!11.70 @ 122
silver/black
2006 Trailblazer SS(wifes car)
silver/black
2000 SVT-Turbo-sold
silver/blue #1699/2150
13.83 @ 102.82 on 5psi
13.51 @ 107.56 on 8psi
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by Russell:
the cost of the 3L with pretty much everything is ridiculous even if you do it yourself!
Define ridicuous please.
im talking about what i spent on my setup, im going from a mostly stock 2.5L to a wild 3L.
i had to buy SVT cams, LIM, and UIM
i had to buy a new tranny, and have it modified
i had to buy an extra set of heads to avoid downtime (got them real cheap)
got my heads PnPed, with combustion chamer option and 3L valves.
bought new pistons, rings, main and rod bearings.
had block bored out 1mm
had engine balanced.
painted various engine parts 
had to fix axle, boot was leaking 
countless gaskets, bolts, etc
bought 65mm TB
bought new MAF, filter, adapter, intake pipe
custom streetflight 2 program chip
msds headers
apexi s-afc 2
exhaust (still didnt buy)
soon ill buy that wideband o2 sensor also
yes, you can do a cheap 3L swap, but i went all out, thats wht i have rediculous costs
im not going cheap on ANYTHING, ive invested far too much money to do that
Russell
Oval Port 3L Nearly Done
MTX75 w/ Homebrew Zetec FD and Torsen Complete
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Originally posted by Russell:
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by Russell:
the cost of the 3L with pretty much everything is ridiculous even if you do it yourself!
Define ridicuous please.
im talking about what i spent on my setup, im going from a mostly stock 2.5L to a wild 3L.
i had to buy SVT cams, LIM, and UIM
i had to buy a new tranny, and have it modified
i had to buy an extra set of heads to avoid downtime (got them real cheap)
got my heads PnPed, with combustion chamer option and 3L valves.
bought new pistons, rings, main and rod bearings.
had block bored out 1mm
had engine balanced.
painted various engine parts
had to fix axle, boot was leaking
countless gaskets, bolts, etc
bought 65mm TB
bought new MAF, filter, adapter, intake pipe
custom streetflight 2 program chip
msds headers
apexi s-afc 2
exhaust (still didnt buy)
soon ill buy that wideband o2 sensor also
yes, you can do a cheap 3L swap, but i went all out, thats wht i have rediculous costs
im not going cheap on ANYTHING, ive invested far too much money to do that
Just to caveat this: You will probably be pissed off in a $1500 3L swap comes in at equal power numbers right?
You buildup sounds very complete and this statement doesn't necessarily apply to you.
However, I will just throw in that all the parts in the world won't make your car run faster. It is sensible choices to things that actually need fixing.
example: In my book, changing a stock MAF to a PRO-M and getting a chip isn't going to change the power any more than using the stock MAF with a chip. Money saved is $300!
If the MAF were restrictive then yes, but we can prove that the stock maf is not a restriction until your power is close to 300.
Former owner of '99 CSVT - Silver #222/2760
356/334 wHP/TQ at 10psi on pump gas!
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'05 Volvo S40 Turbo 5 AWD with 6spd, Passion Red
'06 Mazda5 Touring, 5spd,MTX, Black
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