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Guys,
I'm totally not a Ford guy but I've had a company car for 2 years. It's a TAURUS. Yes, I know I'm on the Contour forums but I've heard you guys know a lot of stuff here about these cars/motors - and honestly, I haven't been able to find ppl that really know there stuff about the Taurus.
Here's my deal:
'99 Taurus 24V DOHC motor (vin: 'C' - I think). Car was sweet (IMO), alloys, climate control, leather, 6 disc, etc. I like it.
Company car.
Got laid off, car was being driven by ex co-worker, threw a rod.
I've got a chance to get thsi car back for $500. Seems like a good deal.
Tranny is auto (obviously) and had already been fixed under warranty from ford (replaced) but has about 40K miles on it since.
Here's my questions:
How easy to tear this motor out and replace with junkyard motor?
Can I (should I) swap in another motor for better performance (or is this the best performing motor)?
As far as trannies...
Swap the stock one back in or is it an easy swap to get an SVT tranny and do that?
Any help I would appreciate as I need to make the decision to buy this car in the next 3 business days or so (next wednesday).
I'm mechanically inclined...have replaced motors on older VW's.
Installed a s/c on my gti vr6 that I've got now and could probably replace the motor if I had to...don't wanna tho.
Have done cams before, etc.
Just to give you guys an idea, I'm not a total idiot when it comes to performance, just when it comes to Fords.
Please help????
Later,
Nater
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well you could replace it with a 3L for probably around 2,000-2500 i would think. if you just need the block and not the tranny it may be even less. it seems like a good deal to me, is it a Taurus SHO? 
EDIT: on another note, i would replace it with an HMS (high performance) MTX 75. the problem is that tauruses automatics shift on the column (at least the older ones did) and SVT's shift on the floor. if you do this make sure you get a Torsen or Quaiffe (sp?) differential as 3L with a stock diff dont mix...
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I picked up a 2001 long block for $500 w/ 13k on it. Your pre 2000 has an IMRC so I'd stick with swapping a low mile pre2000 myself. The performance is the same between years. Look to spend about $800 for a low mile long block. Even a lot less of you just need the block. Try http://www.greenleafauto.com/index.htm They can ship one to their nearest location to you.
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Originally posted by Zippy_Zetec:
well you could replace it with a 3L for probably around 2,000-2500 i would think. if you just need the block and not the tranny it may be even less. it seems like a good deal to me, is it a Taurus SHO?
EDIT: on another note, i would replace it with an HMS (high performance) MTX 75. the problem is that tauruses automatics shift on the column (at least the older ones did) and SVT's shift on the floor. if you do this make sure you get a Torsen or Quaiffe (sp?) differential as 3L with a stock diff dont mix...
not to offend zippy zetec, but hes so far off from the truth!
the engine he has is the 3L, the same exact 3L we use for our swaps. he can certainly get it back on the road for less than 2K. just stick with the tranny you got, the HMS tranny he is talking about is a 5 speed manual, beefed up by terry haines, and to use one in your car would be very costly and difficult to do. i suggest getting a new engine from a junkyard (make sure its 99+ and the earlier ones had a different bolt pattern IIRC)you might need to swap heads if you get a different year engine. i bought my 99 complete 3L with 25K on it for $620 shipped from ebay
Russell
Oval Port 3L Nearly Done
MTX75 w/ Homebrew Zetec FD and Torsen Complete
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Originally posted by Zippy_Zetec:
well you could replace it with a 3L for probably around 2,000-2500 i would think. if you just need the block and not the tranny it may be even less. it seems like a good deal to me, is it a Taurus SHO?
EDIT: on another note, i would replace it with an HMS (high performance) MTX 75. the problem is that tauruses automatics shift on the column (at least the older ones did) and SVT's shift on the floor. if you do this make sure you get a Torsen or Quaiffe (sp?) differential as 3L with a stock diff dont mix...
Dont bother going with a manual trans and $2000-2500 is way off!  Your just making more work for yourself since the trans mounts, axles, etc dont line up.
Ive never heard of throwing a rod on a 3.0L? Sure you didnt just spin a rod bearing? Worst case senario, youll probably have to buy a new engine minus the intakes etc. If you just spun a rod bearing, just buy a used 99 3.0L shortblock for about $500-700. I dont think any kind of major prep work has to be done since your using the auto trans and 3.0L heads.
Jim Hahn
1996 T-Red Contour SE Reborn 4/6/04
3.0L swap and Arizona Dyno Chip Turbo Kit
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Originally posted by Russell:
Originally posted by Zippy_Zetec:
well you could replace it with a 3L for probably around 2,000-2500 i would think. if you just need the block and not the tranny it may be even less. it seems like a good deal to me, is it a Taurus SHO?
EDIT: on another note, i would replace it with an HMS (high performance) MTX 75. the problem is that tauruses automatics shift on the column (at least the older ones did) and SVT's shift on the floor. if you do this make sure you get a Torsen or Quaiffe (sp?) differential as 3L with a stock diff dont mix...
not to offend zippy zetec, but hes so far off from the truth!
the engine he has is the 3L, the same exact 3L we use for our swaps. he can certainly get it back on the road for less than 2K. just stick with the tranny you got, the HMS tranny he is talking about is a 5 speed manual, beefed up by terry haines, and to use one in your car would be very costly and difficult to do. i suggest getting a new engine from a junkyard (make sure its 99+ and the earlier ones had a different bolt pattern IIRC)you might need to swap heads if you get a different year engine. i bought my 99 complete 3L with 25K on it for $620 shipped from ebay
no offense taken russel. i have never priced them, i was just posting what i thought it would be. you would certianly know more about it that i do, so im sorry for misinforming you, i was just thinking it would be badass to have a 5 speed in a taurus. but he is right about it being very difficult to swap froma column shifting ATX to a floor shifting MTX.
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Zippy you need to start reading and stop posting. You are giving so much misinformation it's not funny. You're not building a good reputation for yourself.
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Originally posted by beyondloadedSE:
Originally posted by Zippy_Zetec:
well you could replace it with a 3L for probably around 2,000-2500 i would think. if you just need the block and not the tranny it may be even less. it seems like a good deal to me, is it a Taurus SHO?
EDIT: on another note, i would replace it with an HMS (high performance) MTX 75. the problem is that tauruses automatics shift on the column (at least the older ones did) and SVT's shift on the floor. if you do this make sure you get a Torsen or Quaiffe (sp?) differential as 3L with a stock diff dont mix...
Dont bother going with a manual trans and $2000-2500 is way off! Your just making more work for yourself since the trans mounts, axles, etc dont line up.
Ive never heard of throwing a rod on a 3.0L? Sure you didnt just spin a rod bearing? Worst case senario, youll probably have to buy a new engine minus the intakes etc. If you just spun a rod bearing, just buy a used 99 3.0L shortblock for about $500-700. I dont think any kind of major prep work has to be done since your using the auto trans and 3.0L heads.
Jim,
I'm really not sure what happened to it as I don't actually have the car - my old company does. They are just going by what the mechanic told them. It's definitely an internal problem probably of some significance.
The trans is just fine (by the way, shifts on the floor) and was replaced under warranty about 35K miles back (maybe a bit more) so I'm not so worried about that.
I guess I could just get the block w/o the tranny and save some cash and just drop her in.
So, I should def stick to the 1999 year, right guys?
Somebody mentioned that I may have to swap heads if I go any NEWER, right?
I found quite a few 24V 3.0L's from '99 cars with low miles (tough to know if the mileage statements are true...is there a vin# on the block?).
If I go with a motor out of a newer car (ie. out of the newer body style) I'm looking at more swapping, aren't I?
I do know that there are some intake differences but I thought that was it???
Thanks again guys for your help! You guys are helping me make a decision to buy this car - I could have (as of the other day) passed on this offer).
Sounds like a good deal to me though.
Another question:
EASY SWAP? Any tips/hints on this motor swap?
Later,
Nater
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Originally posted by Nater:
So, I should def stick to the 1999 year, right guys?
Somebody mentioned that I may have to swap heads if I go any NEWER, right?
I found quite a few 24V 3.0L's from '99 cars with low miles (tough to know if the mileage statements are true...is there a vin# on the block?).
If I go with a motor out of a newer car (ie. out of the newer body style) I'm looking at more swapping, aren't I?
I do know that there are some intake differences but I thought that was it???
Yes you'll have to swap heads. Yes the block has a vin on it. Hard to lie.
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-'05 Mazda 6s, loaded, g/f's ride
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