Contour Enthusiasts Group Archives Forums Modifications Forced Induction Forget the chip reburns and confusing tweecers

One of my friends told me about this software coming out. http://www.superchipscustom.com/ tweecer is like Dos and this is more like XP check it out. It also will work with 99% of fords EEC's.

You mean like this repost...

http://www.contour.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=genmods&Number=409668&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=1

Also the price is "suppose" to be around 1 grand. That's just ridiculous!!!
You can almost buy a stand alone fuel management setup when you are talking the 1 grand or better ball park, or 2-3 TwEECers, or ~4 custom chips from SF.


Also it has no datalogging ability either.


Plus it's looks like it's just a "reflasher"

The Tweecer has 4 program positions plus a bypass. (5 total) Reflashed is reflashed! No choices or options to change on the fly.
Also you have to be very careful with a reflasher as it is very easy to nuke your PCM. You folks "probably" don't understand how many different programs I've run with my TwEECer or how many it takes for a proper dyno tuning. No way I'd want to reflash the PCM like that!!!
Also I expect this to work on just one single application like the Hypertech programmer does. You get one changed program, it saves your base, and that's it.


I'll keep my infinite program library, multiple program slots, and datalogging ability.

Sorry didn't see that post in the other forum. Also with a tweecer don't risk blowing up your car with incorrect paremeteres? Also wouldn't a tweecer be a calibrator not a true fix since it Doesn't flash the pcm? Why would you need to make on the fly adjustments? Of course there will be difference in air density and such but why would you want to do that when your on a open track event. I can see on the mulitiple postion setting for street driving and such. You mention datalogging wouldn't you want to dyno it to get a true tune anyway so couldn't you have a obd2 prog to monitor the whats going on? With the tweecer does that let the computer alter the tables on the fly? Not being rude just valid questions. I have also been told the tweecer does not switch other calibrations that need to be changed once another adjustment has been made.

The price has not been set at this time, they have not released a lot of details yet to keep competitors guessing. Once it is released we will have a price, but I don't believe it will be $1000 for the common model.

Don't know yet if there will be a data loging ability with this, but I am doubting it will be included in the handheld version. It may be present in the chip version as it could be done similar to the TwEECer.

There will be two methods, a handheld flasher and a chip version. The chip will be a new Superchips 4 bank chip, this will allow for 4 programs to be stored and the option of turning it off and using the stock EEC as a fallback.

It has been stated on the Modular Depot thread that with the flasher it will currently not be possible to read the data from the stock EEC as a safety feature. When reading from and writing to the EEC the car must be powered on, if power is lost it is possible to be left with a useless EEC. When the flasher writes to the EEC the first thing it writes is the boot portion of the programming so that if power is interupted halfway through you will still be able to start again and recover it. It is recomended that the car be hooked up to a charger when reading or writing to the EEC in order to avoid this happening.

Once used the flasher will be locked to only work with the EEC it was first hooked up to, but will allow you to adjust the programming as many times as you want for that car. There will be a tuner version also which will work with any number of cars but will obviously cost more. With the chip version this limit will not exist since you can only use the chip in one car at a time, but you could use it in any car that has the J3 connector. For example, use it with your truck to get good gas mileage to the track, then move it to your car for racing, and back to your truck for the return trip. This would require a computer and power source, but so does the TwEECer. It may also be possible in the future to buy a license to use the flasher with an extra vehicle, or buy another chip for a second vehicle.

I agree that datalogging can be a great asset to someone who knows what they are looking at. My preference would be to get a standalone package like the autotap tho. This would allow me to use one or the other without having to use both. I could take the autotap and use it on a friend's car without having to dissable my car by moving the chip as well.

Like I said at the begining, the product has yet to be released, once it is, these questions will be answered.

From what I've read on the other site there will be different levels of it that will allow different levels of adjustment. Like the first level will have basic stuff and have limits to prevent people from screwing up and then higher up lvls that would allow you to change whatever you want.

Like I've said before.. it will be interesting to see the software and take a look at the product when it is released.

that looks complicated, and i wouldnt want to risk blowing my engine that i spent alot of money on by doing a bad tune.

ill just leave my tuning needs to professionals, streetflight