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i remember when the first bush made "liberal" a bad name.
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Originally posted by moxnix:
All the spelling mistakes I think are the fault of whoever typed it in not her orginal article (post at this site)
http://www.creators.com/opinion_show.cfm?columnsName=miv
I dont see anything in her Bio about working for 60 mins but I also dont watch TV so maybe she did I have no clue.
http://www.creators.com/opinion_Shell.cfm?pg=biography.html&columnsname=miv
her bio says she is a beer-drinker? I guess she is drunk as hell when she writes her columns...
TRUST ME, she did 60 Minutes for a VERY LITTLE while, she actually made Andy Rooney look like an intellectual. It was such a flop, I wouldn't claim it, either.
WAIT, I FOUND THE PROOF, she WAS on 60 minutes...http://timstvshowcase.com/60minutes.html
And I followed some links here to learn it was 1996 she was on 60 Minutes, also she appeared in a documentery called "Dildo Diaries". Not sure if it was about her using one, or being one.
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Originally posted by CRZYDRVR:
Originally posted by 99blacksesport:
I too am tired of the bush bashing going on in America today... -Nick
Same here.
If you don't like it, maybe you should "get the hell out".
Hey, I can use that in a sentence too! How you like them deficits.
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Originally posted by daenku32:
...Hey, I can use that in a sentence too! How you like them deficits.
What's your point? Last time I checked the OMB planned to have a balanced budget back in 2005, which is damn good considering the events of Afghanistan, Iraq and 9/11. Remember that the US government isn't taking in as much revenue as it did under the boom years of the '90s, either (which had ZILCH to do with who was in office at the time).
And before you start screaming about the national debt (around $6 trillion, IIRC) please compare it to the dollar amount of GDP that this country produces. It puts it in perspective.
I'm not saying having a deficit or debt is good, but it it's between that and sending out troops with rocks to throw instead of grenades and not being able to pay for basic services that the government uses and supplies to it's citizens...
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Originally posted by JaTo:
I'm not saying having a deficit or debt is good, but it it's between that and sending out troops with rocks to throw instead of grenades and not being able to pay for basic services that the government uses and supplies to it's citizens...
But you are entirely missing the point that we shouldn't be there in the first place. I guess I just don't understand this whole mentality that we need to have rein and our way of living arcoss the globe.  And I guess I don't understand why our president feels he needs to run a credit card budget. But I love the comments of how everything that is a problem today is because of the end of Clinton's term... further proving Molly Ivins point of people not letting up on sliming Clinton.  It make me laugh to see people completely play into what they are accused of in the first place.
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Originally posted by BP:
Thank you. 
Now where's that monkey-Bush one?
EDIT: LOL!!
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Originally posted by Dionysus:
But you are entirely missing the point that we shouldn't be there in the first place.
Says the f**k who? Debt, when used WISELY, can facilitate things that otherwise wouldn't come about. Shouldn't, wouldn't, couldn't; debt and deficit spending is a TOOL, albeit one that is a double-edged sword unless CARE is taken when using it. It allows a government to obtain funding for projects that are often necessary and needed to reinvigorate private industry, consumer confidence and buoy social projects that HAVE to be funded (and I'm not talking about the typical political "pork barrel" legislation here, either).
Originally posted by Dionysus:
I guess I just don't understand this whole mentality that we need to have rein and our way of living arcoss the globe.
Someone has to be on top. Better us than just about anyone else. Would you rather have China dictating policy to the world, who at this instant would be sending it's police force to your or my doorstep to "slap" the mouths that talk back to it's policies?
...and I think we've all seen the ROARING success that the UN has been in governing the world...
Originally posted by Dionysus:
And I guess I don't understand why our president feels he needs to run a credit card budget.
Please don't compare this administration's deficit spending to anything approaching a credit-card experience, or ANY administrations deficit spending, for that fact. It just smacks of ignorance.
Look back to history. When carefully controlled and judiciouly used, deficit spending (in a Keynesian fashion) can facilitate NEEDED capitol to help fund projects and reinvigorate a stagnant economy. I'm oversimplifying here, but it's a core fact.
Look to history, as in the Great Depression. There were a number of European countries that SPENT their way out of the Great Depression through controlled deficit spending (though the biggest one's that benefitted most from this, Germany and England, were putting most of this capital towards gearing up for war). Others did manage to do so without ramping up for the upcoming conflict with Nazi Germany.
Originally posted by Dionysus:
But I love the comments of how everything that is a problem today is because of the end of Clinton's term...
PAY ATTENTION! I just said in one of my previous replies that Clinton's policies WERE NOT the cause of the economic problems that the US has recently faced. It was MUCH larger than just about anything his staff could have cooked up. Now in terms of current events, I will scream about his administration basically gouging the CIA's eyes and ears by cutting HumInt and their general budget to Hell, hence having nowhere NEAR the amount of intelligence coverage the US needed in those days (rather obvious since 9/11, right?)
Originally posted by Dionysus:
further proving Molly Ivins point of people not letting up on sliming Clinton. It make me laugh to see people completely play into what they are accused of in the first place.
Oh, NO! I just hate being accused of calling a brown, semi-solid and smelly object a turd, when it's PRECISELY that!
OH, the injustice and stain on my ego! The DAMAGE to my intellect!
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Clinton didn't have a bucket of mud thrown on him.
He jumped HEADFIRST into the bucket, people took notice, THEN proceeded to further help him down his CHOSEN path.
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Molly Ivins insightful? A Molly Ivins article on anything republican is about as insightful as a David Duke speech on race relations.
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Originally posted by CRZYDRVR:
Originally posted by 99blacksesport:
I too am tired of the bush bashing going on in America today... -Nick
Same here.
I actually find it rather amusing. When all the left has is insults about how he speaks or gives interviews, it's further proof that the Dems have little more than an anti-Bush agenda, not pro-America agenda, which helps the people NOT!
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I'm with jato, i wont blame the economic problems on Clinton either, that being said, these things dont happen over night either (with the exception of the blow to an already ailing economy that was 9/11)
as for 'Clintons only screwup being an affair' HA! Atleast Bush has a spine!
Screwups for clinton:
Congo and centeral Africa, massive Genocide.. but it must be the darkies problem! -no intervention
Somolia, Marines go in, fix the problem, replaced by lighter army force, somewhere on the order of 20 die in a massive firefight one day, clinton runs away... Dont take me for some war-monger here but God forbade we make those deaths mean anything... when we ran away we pissed those soldiers lives down the drain, they died for nothing.
HE GOT FREAKING DISBARRED!!!!!!!!!
Saddam, throw some bombs at him, he's bad!
North Korea, i thought we didnt negotiate with terrorists? OOPS! Terrorist states are no different than Osama, the Unibomber, or Timothy McVeigh... I dont understand whats so hard for people to understand: we play nicey-nice with people who follow the world neighborhoods rules, the rest are bastard children who need to be dealt with harshly.
speaking of osama... throw a couple of cruise missiles at him why dont we... we're ninnys, he organizes attacks world wide against the United States, her territories and allies.. we spend $2m in cruise missiles on one night to give him the bird... way to go Bill, effective! There's a whole lot more Clinton could have done in the way of stopping terror but most of it seems to be sketchy so we'll leave it alone for now and stick to the facts.
Taxes, SURE the countrys making money, boost everyones taxes Bill! we all need to pay out to the 'hand outs for F**kups campaigns'
Everyone praises Clinton as a great world politik master, what they seem to fail to see is he blew smoke up everyones ass, i'll bet i can make you smile if i [censored] you for 30 minutes too, doesnt mean anythings gonna get done...
just a thought.
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