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Re: 3.0L block and heads with 2.5 intake #744728 09/27/03 02:20 PM
Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,621 West Des Moines, IA B bnoon_dup1 Redneck Troll
bnoon_dup1 Redneck Troll B Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,621 West Des Moines, IA	Originally posted by procyon: Originally posted by bnoon: Oh, also grinding in your own injector slot to feed into the oval port since the oval port intake has it's injector centered, not offset like the twin port does. Just wondering, what would be wrong with keeping it centered? You wouldn't have the IMRC anymore. I was talking about using the twin port intakes as a set. If you want it centered, then you'd be using the oval port LIM and the modification would need to be done to the twin port upper if you wanted to use it. No gain for all of the work here in my eyes. If you want oval ports, adapt the whole sha-bang. http://www.bnmotorsports.com "And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my CEG brothers. And you will know I am the Moderator when I lay my vengeance upon you."

Re: 3.0L block and heads with 2.5 intake #744729 09/28/03 04:18 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 171 Shelbyville, IN M mrspindlelegs CEG\'er
mrspindlelegs CEG\'er M Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 171 Shelbyville, IN	Bnoon, Speaking of 3-liter projects, did you ever get that 3-Liter Focus project off the ground? I saw your post plus thread over on the Focusjet forum and it looked liked something was underway then zip, nada, zilch. Just curious. My guess is that the hardest part of swapping in a 3-Liter duratec is getting the PATS system to work properly. Dave Keller 1995 Contour SE 1999 Contour SVT

Re: 3.0L block and heads with 2.5 intake #744730 09/28/03 04:30 AM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO D DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er D Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO	Originally posted by mrspindlelegs: My guess is that the hardest part of swapping in a 3-Liter Duratec is getting the PATS system to work properly. Why would PATS care if the engine changed??? I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt (don't all die folks ) and say that "maybe" you were thinking the biggest problem would be the computer program required to run a 6 cylinder Duratec vs a 4 cylinder Zetec would have to be a different strategy. This in turn causing the PATS module to not recognize the new strategy and give a no start condition. However... (you all knew it was coming ) When you get this new "custom tuned" strategy you can either have PATS reprogrammed or just turn it off altogether. 2000 SVT #674 13.47 @ 102 - All Motor! It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.

Re: 3.0L block and heads with 2.5 intake #744731 09/28/03 05:27 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 171 Shelbyville, IN M mrspindlelegs CEG\'er
mrspindlelegs CEG\'er M Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 171 Shelbyville, IN	Originally posted by DemonSVT: Originally posted by mrspindlelegs: My guess is that the hardest part of swapping in a 3-Liter Duratec is getting the PATS system to work properly. Why would PATS care if the engine changed??? I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt (don't all die folks ) and say that "maybe" you were thinking the biggest problem would be the computer program required to run a 6 cylinder Duratec vs a 4 cylinder Zetec would have to be a different strategy. This in turn causing the PATS module to not recognize the new strategy and give a no start condition. However... (you all knew it was coming ) When you get this new "custom tuned" strategy you can either have PATS reprogrammed or just turn it off altogether. I based my guess on PATS being the most difficult problem to solve on the article in the first FocusFanatic Magazine on the Focus that had the 2003 Mustang SVT drivetrain installed. That article indicated that the Focus interfaced the Instrument Cluster with the ECM and the Key. They had a guy who knew the system well solve the problem but the "read between the lines" message seemed like this was the toughest part to solve. Again, I'm just curious if Bnoon ever managed to do the duratec swap. No serious intentions here on embarking on such a project. Dave Keller 1995 Contour SE 1999 Contour SVT

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