i am not trying to start a fued here or anyting but i am saying that NEW line of sony's are not good. the older line is better because the the new Explode line sony has cheaped the quality and we did see tons come in from best buy the sucked. granted some cd players will work better even if they are the same model due to defects or whatever, but most NEW! sony's (except for es and the active black panel suck). if your sony still works then good for you, you got a good one. also if you look at sony power it says 50x4 MAX when really rms is around 17x4 and pioneer is around 19x4 rms
-chris
