I don't think, or I don't hope, people thought the premise of the movie was that guns are bad, blah, blah, blah. It's a right we have, you can't take that away. We also can own fast cars and drive them insanely fast, that kills a LOT more people than the 11,000+ people that die from gun violence every year. . .

WHY do we have a higher rate than like France or UK, with like a measely 30-60 deaths/yr from guns?

This is the premise of Moore's argument, in case those that saw it didn't get it: Americans live in FEAR. It's the media that perpetuates this fear, and we react by:
(1) Buying bigger, "safer" SUVs
(2) Buying guns
(3) Buying gas masks
(4) Buying condoms
(5) Buying tasers
Now, I freely indulge in all of the latter save for #2, #3, and #5 (BTW, that was a sardonic list of stupid things we americans indulge, by no means representative of the whole). Point is, we need to eliminate the media because THEY promote fear in us all. . .

I don't own a gun in the great state of TX because when I was going to get one, this past March when my house was bruglarized and $50k+ worth of stuff was stolen including my 4Runner, everybody on CEG said to calm down and look for alternatives. I've since become a Kung Fu Master. ok, that was a test to see if you're still reading.

I didn't get a gun to "defend" my apartment because, like everyone here on CEG said, I'd probably shoot myself or get shot if I walked in on a burglar. So, these social misfits that freakin' shot everyone (that part of the movie was freaky to watch, how deliberate their murderous actions were), it's not the guns, it's EVERYTHING. It's the teenagers that are "in and cool" that flow with what the MEDIA thinks is cool and current, isolating other groups, the "outs", perpetuating teenage angst and mistrust leading to ANGER, and FRUSTRATION. It's our society, not the guns. It's everything that makes us american. The only way it'll change is, well, if the fear factor is taken away. . .then we'll all calm down, so pass me da joint and let this argument continue. . . :~i