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Originally posted by mrspindlelegs:
The first thing you need to do is replace the factory waterpump with an aftermarket version that has the metal impellar. After that, install the Dual Mass Dampener (DMD). You may even want to consider an oil accumulator. Do the "preventive failure" mods first before bumping-up power output.
yeah whats with all the water pumps going out? i read they suck! and also whats wrong with the other parts you mentioned? if im gonna do this i want to do it right!
has anyone had a problem with their car reving up to like 4k when the clutch is in? it was strange it happened twice now! and at ODD times! i woudl drive put the clutch in and the rpm's would climb slowley up to 4grand! very strange stuff! THANKS AGAIN!
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Originally posted by TORSVT6:
Originally posted by mrspindlelegs:
The first thing you need to do is replace the factory waterpump with an aftermarket version that has the metal impellar. After that, install the Dual Mass Dampener (DMD). You may even want to consider an oil accumulator. Do the "preventive failure" mods first before bumping-up power output.
yeah whats with all the water pumps going out? i read they suck! and also whats wrong with the other parts you mentioned? if im gonna do this i want to do it right!
has anyone had a problem with their car reving up to like 4k when the clutch is in? it was strange it happened twice now! and at ODD times! i woudl drive put the clutch in and the rpm's would climb slowley up to 4grand! very strange stuff! THANKS AGAIN!
I totally agree with the water pump. I went underdrive pulley not DMD but its a HUGELY played out arguement I'm not gonna go into. About the oil: check the quote below for some important info concerning oil issues with the 'tour. Most of us it seems are using Mobile 1 synthetic 5w-30 and I would suggest using it if you aren't already.
Originally posted by RoadRunner:
The Oil requirements of the Duratec were miscalculated by FORD.
Rousch did testing on the Duratec Engine and found out that 5.8 quarts of oil is not enough.
At 5000 rpm there was barely 1/2 quart of oil left in the oil pan.
They suggested that, based on their findings, you run your engine
with 1/2 quart additional oil, or 6.3 quarts of oil.
So when I change my oil, I give my mechanic 6 quarts of Mobil 1 5W30,
with a new K&N HP-2010 filter.
When I get the Contour home, I add 1/2 quart of oil to the engine.
I've got 99k miles and no knocks or problems.
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Yes i have 5w30 in the car now. i think i put in 6 quarts i might have to add an extra quart! im thinking about switching to AMSOIL! i know a guy who used to work for them and he has used it on his car for the last 200k miles! only changed the oil like 4 times!  anyway i want to get the preventative stuff first. where should i research these problems? thanks again
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Using the search on here can bring up a lot of this stuff.
Try searching for DMD or water pump and make sure you set it to search all forums and set it for "newer than..." however far back you wanna read. You'll find tons of stuff...well ARGUEMENTS about the DMD but the water pump is straightforward...Ford put wp's in the 'tours that had plastic impellers in them and at around 50k they are notorious for breaking apart which can cause your engine's early death. Replacement pump with the metal impeller is about $65 and a VERY worthwhile investment. Anyway, searching on here first, then posting a question if you can't find the answer through searching, is a very useful tool to get tons of info on the 'tour.
BTW Welcome to CEG. 
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Originally posted by freakshow:
BTW Welcome to CEG.
thanks and thanks again! all the help i could get is appreciated! this forum isnt like my other forum. but it does sound like you guys are pretty cool and helpful so I have no worries!
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TORSVT6,
That 4000 rpm rev with clutch disengaged may be the classic problem called "throttle hang". Check the FAQ section on "Common Problems/Complaints" for this issue. A less likely cause might be a stuck Idle Air Control (IAC) valve also discussed in the same FAQ section. Both possibilities are easy to handle.
My recommendation on the oil accumulator is due to Contours having the problem of oil starvation when performing prolonged, hard right turns with the engine running at higher revolutions. As a previous post showed, Jack Roush found that only ~ 1/2 quart of oil remains in the pan at 5000 rpm. Part of the problem is also that the oil doesn't drain back into the pan fast enough on the 2.5 L Duratec. The oil pan baffling apparently is not well designed and the remains get shoved away from the pickup on the hard right turn. Thus, filling to ~ 6.3 quarts is one good, cheap way to prevent oil starvation. Ford did redesign the oil pan/baffling system in the late 2000(?) model year but the general concensus on the CEG board appears to be "It doesn't look to be any better or any worse". There is also a modified oil pan/baffling system from Mirko Racing but I don't know any more about that.
The Oil Accumulator is a spring-loaded piston/cylinder unit that is plumbed into the oil system. It retains 1-2 quarts of additional oil and delivers that to the system when a sensor detects low oil pressure. Not a cheap mod compared to just running more oil in the oil pan and it seems like not too many CEG'ers do this mod. I haven't done it yet only because the money isn't available yet.
Keep searching & reading; there's lots of good stuff here.
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My recommendations for intake/exhaust:
K+N as mentioned with a maf adaptor and heatshield is imo the best. I'd get a y-pipe (shoshop, brullen or trubendz) and a quiet exhaust like borla, resonated trubendz, or brullen "quite." This will give you some extra power and not be anoying for everyday driving.
Definately get a dmd, because it only takes 20 minutes to install, costs around $50, and increases engine longevity. You already know about the waterpump.
As far as the rest, get what you want. I find the best aesthetic mods are pretty cheap. "Knauberizing" is free, pre-98 sails are cheap (I traded straight accross for mine), I just painted my front chrome ring for 10.00 in paint/primer and will paint the rear chrome strip soon, ect...
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Originally posted by mrspindlelegs:
TORSVT6,
That 4000 rpm rev with clutch disengaged may be the classic problem called "throttle hang". Check the FAQ section on "Common Problems/Complaints" for this issue. A less likely cause might be a stuck Idle Air Control (IAC) valve also discussed in the same FAQ section. Both possibilities are easy to handle.
thanks but i would need more pictures of what im looking to do for that fix! sounds like my problem though! has anyone done this "FIX" and did they take any pictures? its teh tree huggers we should blame for this! emmisions! PSHHHHH!
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You should post in the W. Great Lakes forum...there's a lot of cool ceg'ers in the chicago/illi area that would probably help you out with this and maybe some other stuff if you asked em.
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Originally posted by TORSVT6:
Originally posted by mrspindlelegs:
The first thing you need to do is replace the factory waterpump with an aftermarket version that has the metal impellar.
yeah whats with all the water pumps going out? i read they suck!
It's BS! My car has 86k on is and the original pump, I'm not the only one either. Being used, your may already have been replaced. Just keep an eye on your temp gauge! FYI, It's not uncommon for water pumps to fail around 60K. The coolant system a high stress item. Just keep an eye on it!
-Andy
Andy W.
The problem with America is stupidity.
I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment
for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety
labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
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