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#725261 08/23/03 06:46 PM
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If you want good living conditions then don't join the Navy. The travel is good but living conditions are horrible. You will sleep in a huge room with about 100 people with no air conditioner. If you don't get along with the person next to you then your boss will say "If you don't get along then I will make you two share the same bunk". The room ventillation is so loud it sounds almost like a jet. They turn the ventilation off for drills and weapons movements and the temperatures soar to 130 or 140 degrees sometimes.

If you want more money become an Entrepreneur. A person I went to school with took home just under $2,000,000 last year after taxes from the fast food chain that he owns.

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Originally posted by 7999:

Remember that a officer starts at a rank higher than all of the enlisted personel. They usually sit behind a desk (not much physical work).




Well, they may not in the Navy or the Air Force, but I can tell you Army and Marine officers are out there doing PT with their soldiers and if they are in a combat arms unit like the Infantry, they are right there with their soldiers, especially at the Company Grade Officer level (captain and below).

Eventually as a Captain (in the Army anyway) you will command a company of soldiers (100-200) and then take some staff jobs as well. (Finally, a desk.)

Sure, you won't find officers cleaning up the Motor Pool, but to say they don't do any physical work is entirely untrue.

I know as an officer, I had to pass the same PT tests as my soldiers, and as a leader, I took those test and did my PT right there with my soldiers on most occassions.

(There were times when the Battallion Commander wanted us in his PT session, but that was rare.)

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That sounds different than the Navy. We exercised once a year. If we could run 1.5 miles in 16 minutes then we passed. I ran 1.5 miles in 8 minutes. It took some people over 20 minutes to run 1.5 miles. Some people were so fat that they could not run. We did a lot of physical work but the fat people would hide to avoid work. Either that or they would get a medical excuse stating their back was bad and they could not lift more than 10 pounds. Have you ever noticed that most people with bad backs are overweight?

The Navys emphasis was more on training and knowing how to do things. The only people that I saw exercise regularly were the Navy divers, seals, and the Marines. I have always exersised 2 or 3 days a week because I feel better if I exercise. The Marines and Divers would invite me to exersise and target practice with them sometimes but I never had time to.

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Originally posted by 7999:
If you want good living conditions then don't join the Navy. The travel is good but living conditions are horrible. You will sleep in a huge room with about 100 people with no air conditioner. If you don't get along with the person next to you then your boss will say "If you don't get along then I will make you two share the same bunk". The room ventillation is so loud it sounds almost like a jet. They turn the ventilation off for drills and weapons movements and the temperatures soar to 130 or 140 degrees sometimes.







BULL! Life at sea is tough, all berthing compartments have A/C which can have problems. The training is excellent, I spent fourteen months in one school.


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I don't think that is true for the older ships. Some of the ships were built before air conditioning was standard. The ship I was on had no air conditioning. We trained at the base in Cuba and it was very hot.

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