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Well, Vortech takes your a computer, uploads all the fuel map and timing and stuff out of it to their computer. Then they adjust it for the boost, save it as a file, flash a superchip or whatever and plug it into your computer. Tape it shut and send it to you. Basically all svt contours with this computer code get the exact same programming (that saved file).
Demon calls it generic because it is no different then giving superchips your computer code and getting the same chip they give to everyone else that has that code. It is not custom at all. The best thing to do is get it tuned on a dyno where they can adjust everything to your particular car right on the spot. That is true custom. You could give them a list of your mods and they could somewhat custom tune it, but the dyno is the best way.
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98 E0 Black SVT - Gone
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Originally posted by The Ripper:
Well, Vortech takes your a computer, uploads all the fuel map and timing and stuff out of it to their computer. Then they adjust it for the boost, save it as a file, flash a superchip or whatever and plug it into your computer. Tape it shut and send it to you. Basically all svt contours with this computer code get the exact same programming (that saved file).
Demon calls it generic because it is no different then giving superchips your computer code and getting the same chip they give to everyone else that has that code. It is not custom at all. The best thing to do is get it tuned on a dyno where they can adjust everything to your particular car right on the spot. That is true custom. You could give them a list of your mods and they could somewhat custom tune it, but the dyno is the best way.
Agreed....All cars are diffrent, Diffrent altitudes, diffrent climates, and diffremt preformace gains before forced induction...thinking that someone can "custom tune" your ECU with out running a dyno graph to see where your A/F, HP, and Torque as well as other variables, is just stupid!! I just finished reading a book on tuning by Diablo Sport...though not one of the best, it goes into detail of the process and what can and cannot be done with out a dyno.
They are all generic chips, they get the ECU code form your ECU when you send it in, so they get the compatable program...but all the programs have the same basic peramaters.
Don;t be fooled, Get a custom burned chip.....and make sure the tuner is well repected and knows whats he doing.
Roz
3.0 SVT hybrid...all the fixens...Track/Race ready very soon!!!!!! 20,000 + miles
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I guess ultimately I donâ??t know. I was under the assumption that the engineer I was talking to at Vortechâ??s design team was straight on with me. I thought I had this whole thing figured out except for the revised valve timing issue that goes along with the SVT cams.
Now hearing from everybody I have some serious doubts about my computer and what needs to be done.
So whoâ??s got a Vortech supercharger that theyâ??re 100% satisfied with? There are a lot of morons out there that claim they can give me a â??tuned chipâ??. Anybody wanna pony up some reliable sources?
Iâ??m in this project way to deep to turn back now.
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Originally posted by thestrain98:
1. So whoâ??s got a Vortech supercharger that theyâ??re 100% satisfied with?
2. There are a lot of morons out there that claim they can give me a â??tuned chipâ??.
3. Anybody wanna pony up some reliable sources?
4. Iâ??m in this project way to deep to turn back now.
1. Nobody I'm guessing considering it's 100% failure rate or also the fact it takes another $1500+ (I/C & shaft bearing for example) to make it safe & fairly reliable to run. Hmmm. What's the turbo kit cost again...  
2. I don't doubt that one bit!
3. Street Flight's name has come up in this post already. I'd chose them first followed by probably Fordchips.
4. I little late to start thinking about this stuff now huh... You should have your game plan all worked out long before you "jump deep" into any project much less one such as this.
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It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.
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I went with streetflight for my tune. Very knowledgable guys. I would choose them first. I am very happy with the tune they did to my car. I actually bought my chip from fordchip.com and I was going to have them dynotune my car also, but they never posted a date for their austin dyno session. If I could do it all over again I wouldn't bother with fordchip because of their bad customer service. Sometimes it takes weeks to get a reply from them in their emails and they won't give me their phone number.
I am 100% satisfied with my supercharger. I just have grounding issues i'm trying to work out now. Didn't Vortech fix the problem with the jack shafts? So far I've put about 3,000 miles on my kit since I finally got my car working right and I haven't had a problem yet.
My car just has problems at idle because the pro-flow maf that I bought is a piece of crap.
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Custom Dual Exhaust, Supercharged Contour SVT Engine (returnless), 75mm Pro-flow, oil cooler, Stage 3 SPEC, MSDS, Magnaflow HighFlow cat. Alpine monitor with Nav., XM. B&M Shifter. OMP Cross drilled and slotted rotors.
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
1. Nobody I'm guessing considering it's 100% failure rate or also the fact it takes another $1500+ (I/C & shaft bearing for example) to make it safe & fairly reliable to run. Hmmm. What's the turbo kit cost again...
I'm 100% satisfied (besides heat soak), but I'm a special case. I got it for cheap and have only put 6k miles on it so far. No real chance for it to crap out on me. I'm hoping to get the knukonceptz fix before it does.
Seriously though, if you are buying new, just get the turbo. You've already dumped a lot of money into your car and it would be worth it to just pay the extra now.
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