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one side did look smaller on mine, I actually tried to make it smaller to fit, still to no avail. . .but good point, thanks for mentioning that. . .
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and a side note to all who are reusing that centering spring...leave it off...it is hurting you not helping you at all....all that thing does is help move the shifter into neutral...which is only slowing down your whole shifting process...which is why you bought a short throw shifter is the first place...why use something that is only hurting you 
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Originally posted by chrisilversvt:
and a side note to all who are reusing that centering spring...leave it off...it is hurting you not helping you at all....all that thing does is help move the shifter into neutral...which is only slowing down your whole shifting process...which is why you bought a short throw shifter is the first place...why use something that is only hurting you
I don't know how it works on the pre 2000 SVT's but if installed properly on the 2000 it works perfect  Hurting you...how can it possibly hurt your shifting if it is installed correctly  It's just a little spring...it doesn't affect the shifting in any way whatsoever 
I put 260 miles on my car in one day this past Saturday during the Capital CEG meet and did a ton of shifting some at pretty high speeds through some nice winding roads in VA and couldn't be any happier  ALL my shifts were firm and quick with no miss shifts or grinding of gears!
Do the install right and don't rig anything and you won't be sorry 
Scott
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Originally posted by scottd60:
I don't know how it works on the pre 2000 SVT's but if installed properly on the 2000 it works perfect Hurting you...how can it possibly hurt your shifting if it is installed correctly It's just a little spring...it doesn't affect the shifting in any way whatsoever
I put 260 miles on my car in one day this past Saturday during the Capital CEG meet and did a ton of shifting some at pretty high speeds through some nice winding roads in VA and couldn't be any happier ALL my shifts were firm and quick with no miss shifts or grinding of gears!
Do the install right and don't rig anything and you won't be sorry
Scott
Basically, the sping is useless. You can put it in, or leave it out. It's just that leaving it out will ever so slightly make it easier to stick it in any gear from the neutral position. It's a centering spring. That's all.
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I am aware that it is a centering spring and what it does. All I am saying is if installed properly it works just fine and will not cause any problems. I didn't try it with it out so I can't compare the two. I am basically a perfectionist when it comes to some things so I like to try and install things the way they were designed, if I see a way to improve it I will usually give it a try if possible. As I said before...I couldn't be any happier with my install and the performance of my shifter Enjoy the shifter centering spring or no centering spring Scott
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1989 20th Anniversary Turbo T/A "Indy 500 Pace Car"
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With the Steeda shifter my shifting has gotten slower as I can't always get into 1st or 2nd reliably.  I think I grinded twice yesterday trying to get into second. I don't know how the shifting mechanism works on the tranny side of the shift cables but it feels like the stick has to go further to the left (driver side) in order to slip into any gear easier. I need to dig out my Ford repair manual cd to see if there is anything in there about adjustments. If not, I may have to take the Steeda out and throw the stock one back in until I can get things figured out. The Steeda shifter would be perfect if I could just get things to be as smooth as butter as it was with the stock shifter.
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Originally posted by scottd60:
I am aware that it is a centering spring and what it does. All I am saying is if installed properly it works just fine and will not cause any problems. I didn't try it with it out so I can't compare the two. I am basically a perfectionist when it comes to some things so I like to try and install things the way they were designed, if I see a way to improve it I will usually give it a try if possible. As I said before...I couldn't be any happier with my install and the performance of my shifter
Enjoy the shifter centering spring or no centering spring
Scott
then obviously you don't have a clue what the hell you are talking about either....it doesn't matter that its installed CORRECTLY....it is there to help pull the shifter towards neutral....which in turn makes it longer to shift between the gears period...it slows you down period....you don't need your shifter getting pulled toward neutral when you are trying to shift fast...
it doesn't matter that it came with it...my install is just as complete as yours is and i don't have the spring....and for that matter i was the second person on this site to install the steeda on a tour...i am not saying that the spring is hurting your car,but it is hurting your quick shifting...it is a worthless piece of metal,that hinders performance.....just because it came on the car doesn't mean it has to be on there for an install to be professional,and well done....
and btw demonsvt and others discussed this awhile back,and he stated that it is hurting not helping..and iirc he knows a few things about these cars...
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Originally posted by chrisilversvt:
Originally posted by scottd60:
I am aware that it is a centering spring and what it does. All I am saying is if installed properly it works just fine and will not cause any problems. I didn't try it with it out so I can't compare the two. I am basically a perfectionist when it comes to some things so I like to try and install things the way they were designed, if I see a way to improve it I will usually give it a try if possible. As I said before...I couldn't be any happier with my install and the performance of my shifter
Enjoy the shifter centering spring or no centering spring
Scott
then obviously you don't have a clue what the hell you are talking about either....it doesn't matter that its installed CORRECTLY....it is there to help pull the shifter towards neutral....which in turn makes it longer to shift between the gears period...it slows you down period....you don't need your shifter getting pulled toward neutral when you are trying to shift fast...
it doesn't matter that it came with it...my install is just as complete as yours is and i don't have the spring....and for that matter i was the second person on this site to install the steeda on a tour...i am not saying that the spring is hurting your car,but it is hurting your quick shifting...it is a worthless piece of metal,that hinders performance.....just because it came on the car doesn't mean it has to be on there for an install to be professional,and well done....
and btw demonsvt and others discussed this awhile back,and he stated that it is hurting not helping..and iirc he knows a few things about these cars...
Well my smart a$$ friend...obviously you must have very weak spindly little arms that can't maneuver around a little spring since it seems to pull your limp wrist back into neutral uncontrollably. I could really care less if you were one of the 1st to install the Steeda shifter or not that certainly doesn't make you any sort of an expert whatsoever. I also don't care about your references to other members either, I know there are guys on this board that know a thing or two about these cars and there are also some that don't have a clue...that was not the point. I didn't say anything was wrong either way I just simply stated that mine works perfect and I like it the way it is. Don't tell me I don't know what the hell I'm talking about when you have no friggin' clue who I am or anything about me. I was probably working on cars long before you were done crapping in your diapers. You have a 98, I have a 2000 they are different and I said that I didn't know how the shifter works on the pre 2000 cars and I also said I didn't try it without the spring either. So why don't you just back off and leave it alone 
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Originally posted by ghodge:
With the Steeda shifter my shifting has gotten slower as I can't always get into 1st or 2nd reliably. I think I grinded twice yesterday trying to get into second. I don't know how the shifting mechanism works on the tranny side of the shift cables but it feels like the stick has to go further to the left (driver side) in order to slip into any gear easier.
I need to dig out my Ford repair manual cd to see if there is anything in there about adjustments. If not, I may have to take the Steeda out and throw the stock one back in until I can get things figured out. The Steeda shifter would be perfect if I could just get things to be as smooth as butter as it was with the stock shifter.
(1) Did you put enough lube on the main ball??
(2) Did you coax it around a bit once you got the two plastic pieces back on to get it nice and evenly ditributed?
(3) Did you pop the main shift cable on correctly?
Check for all of that, just in case. . .that's weird, real weird, might be a tranny related problem, I dunno. Is your shift cable at the end of its life? What about the shift cable bushings? Replaced recently?
Oh, about the flame war on the centering spring, to each his own, seriously guys. . .it will quicken the shift, no doubt since I installed it both ways and found out the hard way, but it's a matter of preference. . .
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then obviously you don't have a clue what the hell you are talking about either....it doesn't matter that its installed CORRECTLY....it is there to help pull the shifter towards neutral....which in turn makes it longer to shift between the gears period...it slows you down period....you don't need your shifter getting pulled toward neutral when you are trying to shift fast...
it doesn't matter that it came with it...my install is just as complete as yours is and i don't have the spring....and for that matter i was the second person on this site to install the steeda on a tour...i am not saying that the spring is hurting your car,but it is hurting your quick shifting...it is a worthless piece of metal,that hinders performance.....just because it came on the car doesn't mean it has to be on there for an install to be professional,and well done....
and btw demonsvt and others discussed this awhile back,and he stated that it is hurting not helping..and iirc he knows a few things about these cars...
For real.. I mean that spring matters not either way.. it just puts it back neutral and if it slows your shifting down you must be 120lbs soaking wet..
Sounds like you've got "Spring" Envy :P
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