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Yes, we are in agreement. That manifold must be a pretty nice piece of work. Right now I'm suffering from too much power in 1st and 2nd so I can't hook up. It hauls ass from 3r and 4th gear though. 13.96@104.9x is my best with all my trap speeds being 104.xx something or other. I may go tonight where I expect an even higher trapp speed since the temperature has dropped a little. BTW, that was at ~95 degrees also.
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yeah, i have no idea if any of those options were originally on it. he has indiglos, a whale tail spoiler, and a different front bumper ( per the body kit). but the indiglos are not exactly indiglos...they are similar to the svt gauges, but the background light looks a hell of a lot better, they're awesome. could these be the stock ones, or were the stock ones just white during day and plain at night? either way, i'm not too afraid. he was all jazzed taking an integra (not a gsr or itr) a few weeks ago, so i'm not too worried if that makes him happy. he is also a 300 pound asian guy that thinks he's...shall i say...urban. oh well, thanks.
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im not going to mention street racing in this post but my stock 98 se 5 speed is quicker than my friends 96 maxima 5 speed with intake and exhaust especialy when i get the contour into 4th gear i leave him behind.
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Originally posted by cvkillacontour98:
im not going to mention street racing in this post but my stock 98 se 5 speed is quicker than my friends 96 maxima 5 speed with intake and exhaust especialy when i get the contour into 4th gear i leave him behind.
Hmmmm....
I guess it doesn't surprise me because the 170hp CSE is a bit lighter than the CSVT so power to weight ratios are pretty close (right?). It's only after 100mph where the CSVT is a bit faster than the CSE V6 (right?). Is your friend sporting big rims? Assuming he has just a standard intake and catback (no y-pipe), he should be able to get some lower 15s if he's a halfway decent driver. If he's good, he could grab some 14.8s. Tell him to shift at an indicated 6500 on the 1-2, 6300 on the 2-3, and 6000 on the 3-4.
For reference, when I had just an intake, y-pipe, and catback, I was getting 14.7@95mph which was quicker than all 5 of the NA CSVTs that showed to the track that day. DemonSVT was right on my tail though.
Speaking of DemonSVT, I hope we can get some runs in against each other since we both have more mods since we met last time (him beating me by the way).
Dave
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Originally posted by Dave B:
Originally posted by cvkillacontour98:
im not going to mention street racing in this post but my stock 98 se 5 speed is quicker than my friends 96 maxima 5 speed with intake and exhaust especialy when i get the contour into 4th gear i leave him behind.
Hmmmm....
I guess it doesn't surprise me because the 170hp CSE is a bit lighter than the CSVT so power to weight ratios are pretty close (right?). It's only after 100mph where the CSVT is a bit faster than the CSE V6 (right?). Is your friend sporting big rims? Assuming he has just a standard intake and catback (no y-pipe), he should be able to get some lower 15s if he's a halfway decent driver. If he's good, he could grab some 14.8s. Tell him to shift at an indicated 6500 on the 1-2, 6300 on the 2-3, and 6000 on the 3-4.
For reference, when I had just an intake, y-pipe, and catback, I was getting 14.7@95mph which was quicker than all 5 of the NA CSVTs that showed to the track that day. DemonSVT was right on my tail though.
Speaking of DemonSVT, I hope we can get some runs in against each other since we both have more mods since we met last time (him beating me by the way).
Dave
This is not correct. Overall weight of SVT is within 50 lbs of an SE. Torque curve is similar down low but much higher in the higher rpm range. Overall power to weight is higher in the SVT. The SVT outpulls the SE as soon as you hit 2nd gear and it gets worse from there.
At the end of third gear there is no comparison, speaking stock for stock.
The contour GL v6 5spd from 95-97 was only 2760 lbs and are significantly lighter than the SE. Based upon power to weight ratios they should be faster than the SE since the SE was about 2950-3000 lbs, about 200 pounds heavier.
If you are turning 14's with an SE then you are doing great and you have a hell of a motor.
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Wait, I take it you are talking about the Maxima SE versus the contour SE?
That I can't compare since I don't know the stats on the maxima.
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Originally posted by warmonger:
Wait, I take it you are talking about the Maxima SE versus the contour SE?
That I can't compare since I don't know the stats on the maxima.
96 Maxima SE 5 speed
Weight: ~3000lbs (very light for a midsize sedan)
Power: 190hp@5600 / 205tq@4400
Performance: 0-60 6.6 1/4 15.2@92mph (Motor Trend)
Most guys run anywhere from 15.0-15.5@89-92mph in stock 95-99 5 speeds. There are a ton of guys that have run 15.1-15.3@90 in the autos!!!!!
Topspeed: 142mph (Motor Trend)
Dave
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Oh, I thought we were comparing Contour SE with Contour SVT at first.
Yeah, the power to weight for the Maxima is about the same as the CSVT but you have the torque advantage. That helps out. However, it appears from the stats that the cars are very comparable and I would think that stock on stock would be 50/50 wins for both CSVT's and Max SE's.
There is something about the CSVT's power band that just helps in the upper rev's in higher gears, and the coefficient of drag must be lower or something because we just leave a lot of similarly powered cars behind us when we hit 3rd and 4th gear.
I'm betting that wind resistance becomes a deciding factor in these instances just because of the low Coef. Drag.
The max SE 5spd was actually the other car I test drove when I bought the CSVT! I liked the power as the take-off torque was much stronger, but CSVT had that surge of power effect at 5K rpm that felt great too. What really decided it for me was the looks of the CSVT and the suspension. The SE felt too soft and floaty after driving the CSVT. I had to go back and re-drive the CSVT and when I did I never went back to Nissan.
I'm not just some Ford guy, I bought my wife a Saturn and I used to work for Chevy/Infinity(nissan) dealership as a mech in college. I just love the CSVT because it's a great car.
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Originally posted by warmonger:
Oh, I thought we were comparing Contour SE with Contour SVT at first.
Yeah, the power to weight for the Maxima is about the same as the CSVT but you have the torque advantage. That helps out. However, it appears from the stats that the cars are very comparable and I would think that stock on stock would be 50/50 wins for both CSVT's and Max SE's.
There is something about the CSVT's power band that just helps in the upper rev's in higher gears, and the coefficient of drag must be lower or something because we just leave a lot of similarly powered cars behind us when we hit 3rd and 4th gear.
I'm betting that wind resistance becomes a deciding factor in these instances just because of the low Coef. Drag.
The max SE 5spd was actually the other car I test drove when I bought the CSVT! I liked the power as the take-off torque was much stronger, but CSVT had that surge of power effect at 5K rpm that felt great too. What really decided it for me was the looks of the CSVT and the suspension. The SE felt too soft and floaty after driving the CSVT. I had to go back and re-drive the CSVT and when I did I never went back to Nissan.
I'm not just some Ford guy, I bought my wife a Saturn and I used to work for Chevy/Infinity(nissan) dealership as a mech in college. I just love the CSVT because it's a great car.
warmonger
I was actually looking for a 97-99 Se 5spd Maxima before i came across the CSVT. It was definetly my #1 choice especially when i know i would of had a frankencar intake the day i would of gotten it since my friend is the former co owner of the company. but when i saw/ test drove the CSVT that was 8400 and the maxima i was looking at was 12,900, and the fact i didnt have the best paying job at the time helped my choice alot. plus the fact that stock the csvt did look better, and i was lucky enough to get the FSVT wheels with the car. Handling between the 2 cars was night and day also. the only thing that i get mad when i sit in my friends 97 max from time to time is that the interior looks alot better especially since he has the black leather interior. although the quality of the maxima did gow down somewhat when they started the 4th gen. OK ill stop rambling now
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Warmonger and SlowNFurious- I pretty much agree with everything you guys said about the 4th gen Maxima. It is quite plain in stock form, especially the 95-96s, but with some well choosen suspension and body enhancements, these cars really turn some heads. The transformation from the stock Contour to the SVT Contour is much the same way. Ho-hum car to sweet-ass Euro sporty sedan. I agree that the CSVT has a topend advantage, but that's why I got the JDM intake manifold on my car. It's a different animal now. It did 96mph in 1/4 before the manifold and now it's doing close to 100mph  Handling wise, the Maxima is a joke and is in serious need of help. Springs, wheels/tires, and subframe connectors transformed this large sedan into a handling beast. I doubt it's quite as refined as the CSVT with suspension work, but it's really close. Quality wise, this car has been a rock. I've owned it for 5 years and it's never been to the shop or needed anything other than two 02 sensors, a knock sensor, and fluid changes. 120 1/4 passes and I'm still on the stock 7 year old 98K mile clutch that's never slipped once, even with 5000rpm launches. Dave
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