Contour Enthusiasts Group Archives Forums Modifications Audio The ultimate sub...I think so!!

I have no hard data on the sub. They aren't releasing any t/s parameters until the sub is released late this spring. The voice coil is 4".

I've been speaking with the designer. Maybe I can coax him into giving me some info.

1300.00 is tough to overlook no matter what the performance level is.

I really regret not getting in on a opportunity to get an sub from www.stryke.com. They had the same sub as the new 1000.00 eclipse woofer for less than 400.00. I unfortunately declined...damn..

Guys, this speaker will not work well in a car inviroment, don't waste your money. This is a home speaker, built for that enviroment...totally different than a car.

Look at it, does it even have a magnet. If the cone is 18" and the voice coil is only 4"...hmmm it's gonna sound crappy at high levels. The purpose of the magnet is to pull the voice coil, which pulls the cone back down to get ready for the next response or impluse. I realize the quality of magnet is more important than the size, but in this case. take a look at a JL audio 12" speaker, yes I have JL 12's and I do like them but I would prefer HART speakers...but they don't make them anymore. This thing would have to have some kind of new technology magnet and voice coil to make this work and I'm pretty sure it isn't. The basket, cone and surround do look pretty good. I'm not trying to knock you guys down, just trying to save my fellow SVTers some cash.

Ummm...sorry RainShadow but I can't let this kind of misinformation be spread,

This sub WAS built for the mobile environment. In fact, it was built for use in a 1.5 cubic foot cabinet. You can contact Aura to verify if you would like. About the magnet...well, this sub uses a pretty unique motor, not the typical earth magnets like Ferrite as most other companies use. The design is about 20 times as strong as ferrite, so therefore only needs to be 1/20 the size.

The 4" VC is a underhung design which will greatly reduce distortion. Will this sub outperform anything JL Audio makes, of course. JL isn't even in the same league. It comparing apples to oranges. When the W7 subs are released, they will be direct competition, not the W6 or anything else they currently have. It's really not even fair to compare because of the price. Do I think this sub is worth 1300.00? not in my mind it isn't. Do I think it is one of the better if not the best sub around? Without a doubt. I respect your right not to be impressed with it, but to substantiate your arguments with "look at the magnet" without any knowledge about it, then I have to correct you.

Oh, and please let me know the differences between the way a speaker is designed for home as opposed to the mobile environment...and how do those differences optimize the speakers performance in either environment.

BTW, do you know of a larger VC than 4" aside from the Phase Linear subs? This sub will be at it's best with a 1000 watts and high volumes. JL Audio's 18" sub has a 2.5" voice coil. Their W7 Supersub has a 3.5". Betcha they don't sound crappy either.

...what makes you think home audio equipment will not work in a car? Who do you think makes Diamond Audio Speakers? The answer is Eton...a home audio speaker producer. Where did the designs of Focals, Dynaudio, and Morel originate from?? Home audio....How about all of the megasubs on the market (eclipse, DD, Audiomobile, etc...)?? well, they got their designs from TC Sounds, which manufacturers subs for Krell and Sunfire among others...guess what, home audio again.

I think we do agree on one point, that it costs a lot of money and for 99.9% of the people there are better options. But if extreme SQ and output are your forte and you have the money, they are the sub for you.

Best regards,

Dave



[This message has been edited by dnewma04 (edited January 16, 2001).]