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#71259 12/20/00 03:30 PM
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So i am in the process of compiling the parts for my system, here is what i have/will have soon so far:

-Front speakers - Vifa woofers and tweaters + crossovers
-Rear Speakers - Vifa woofers with some bass blockers (maybe a coil in series if it muds the sound with highs)

- head unit - undecided as of yet, i'm thinking about the alpine 3disc changer with (3) 4Volt peramp outs

-6channel a/d/s amp running 50W for the fronts, 25W for the backs (not the best of amps but got it really cheap)

- 2 channel ZAP competition amp for the sub

- Image Dynamics IDQ10 D4 V.2 Subwoofer (10")

what u guys think?

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Sounds great! Mainly because this is almost the exact system I have been recommending for quite a while on this board. :-)

What is the model number of the a/d/s/ amp?

You will probably want to add the inductor to the rear speaker to get rid of anything over 3000 hz or so.

I personally would subsitute the AdireAudio Shiva for the IDQ sub but if you already have the 10, it should work great. Not sure about the indash CD either. I've never been too impressed with their convenience. I guess i'd spend my money on an indash cd player/changer.

Good luck!

btw, did you get the vifas from madisound?

#71261 12/20/00 03:55 PM
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i forgot the a/d/s number its an older amp that circuit city was getting rid of for $100, which i thought was a pretty good deal.
Its rated at 25Wx6.

Yes, i got the Vifas through madisound, i think its an awesome deal, plus i can tell ppl that its custom :P, he he.

I think for now i'm going to run the rears as is and see how it sounds, this stereo stuff is new to me so i'm still learning, so i want to listen to it as is, and then try to block the highs and try to hear the difference.

I'm not exactly sure about the 3disc changer either, mainly because it looks like crap. But its a really nice deck, and since it looks like crap no one will want to take it, he he....plus i really dont need too much eye candy. i might go with a regular cd alpine deck though, as long as it has 3 preamp outputs...

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#71262 12/20/00 04:01 PM
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Nice name by the way. you are the devil chicken! You should actually be getting 100 watts to each of the front speakers. You will get 50 watts bridged into 8 ohms, and 100 watts into 4 ohms. It may be more like 75 watts but still, it'll be more than 50.

It should make an outstanding set up.

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From what I hear, That Alpine deck is trash. The rest of their decks are good. Just not the changer deck. HTH, Tim

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#71264 12/21/00 02:44 AM
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El Pollo Diablo,
What exactly do you mean by your remark that "the a/d/s/ is not the best of amps"?

Are you referring to its quality? Or are you referring to the fact that it "only" has 25 watts to each of its six channels?

Unfortunately, in either case I believe you are very, very wrong.

a/d/s/ manufactures what is arguably the highest quality, high end car audio equipment on this or any other planet.
They virtually invented high end car audio over 20 years ago with their very first Power Plate amplifier. Indeed, their 320i component speakers introduced in 1982(?) set the standard for car audio speakers for years to come.

Along with their sonic excellence, a/d/s/ amplifiers have always been extremely conservative when rating their available power.
25 watts in an a/d/s/ amplifier is probably closer to twice as much advertised by any other mainstream manufacturer.

You might consider the Nakamichi MB-70 head unit since the rest of your system is hovering in that rarified atmosphere of car audio high end.


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#71265 12/21/00 03:19 AM
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I think u misunderstood me SVT Contour. What i wanted to convey is that the a/d/s amp i have is not the best of a/d/s amps out there. its an older model that i bought on a clearence sale. Maybe i worded it wrong so it came out like i was putting it down, but i am very happy with the purchase, especially the price :P

The exact model for the amp is a/d/s 6*25W

I am also aware of their conservaity rating on power, so i should be all set.

I am currently looking at the nakamichi decks, thanks for the advice.

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#71266 12/21/00 03:16 PM
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Actually, the amp you have is an early 90's vintage power plate amp. Pretty nice amp, especially for $100.00. My second favorite amp that I have ever owned was an a/d/s/ PH15. It was a 6 channel 50 watt per channel amp. I wouldn't exactly say that they under rate their amps, it's more of a situation of other companies over rate their amps. If you actually test the output of your amp, it will be right around 25-30 watts based on my experience with a/d/s/ amps. My PH15 was rated at 48-57 watts depending on the channel. The high end companies (PG, RF, PPI, SS) tend to rate their amps very realistically at 12V, not at 14.4 which can happen but is rare.

Again, I'm very impressed with your choices of components. Although, I think the Nak deck mentioned previously would be over kill compared to the rest of your components. If you were using dynaudio/focal/Eton components, mcintosh amps, and Lambda Acoustics subs. The Nak CD70 (i think that is the model number) would be the better choice for you. but with your components get the CD35 or 45Z.

keep us posted on your progress.
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[This message has been edited by dnewma04 (edited December 21, 2000).]

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No offense meant or taken, Mr. Diablo.
I kinda assumed you meant the actual power rating was not the highest you would desire & the particular a/d/s/ model was not the newest amplifier available.

Likewise, Mr. dnewman, I did not intend to imply that a/d/s/ underrates their amplifiers.
Perhaps I resorted to a bit of hyperbole when stating they were twice as powerful than more mundane amplifiers.
I would agree with your observation that the latter are usually so overrated that the watts per channel is meaningless.
Also with amplifiers of the quality of a/d/s/ the power available is so remarkably clean & devoid of distortion that it seems to be much more powerful.

Sorry if I came across as a bit rude & shrill.


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#71268 12/22/00 01:12 PM
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No offense taken here. I was more agreeing with you than anything. They make arguably the best amps on the market. The versatility is another one of their strongest points. I would actually consider selling my McIntosh if the new PQ40 came up at the right price. :-)

I just bought an 89 Dodge Omni for a winter car that i'll be putting a little system from leftover parts from previous installs. :-) I found enough stuff to make a pretty nice little system. Sony Mobile ES in dash CD, a/d/s/ PH15, Some mids from some home Energy brand speakers, audax tweeters, Boston 4x6s, a JL 10W6, Advent 6x9s, a AC EQL...I'm obviously addicted to this darn audio stuff. probably the reason why i don't have any cash

anyway, just thought i'd share...

Dave

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