Thanks nOsSvTcOnToUr for bringing the conversation back into focus. I think people have stretched the definition of "ricing." Keep in mind we are drivinh american cars here so there is no ricing going on. I guess you can try to associate putting neons in cars with ricers, but you are wrong if you make this assumption. So back to the real question..........does anyone know of any places to get inexpensive neons that are good quality? Thanks