the seller is on drugs!!! the car has a full nada retail value of 14325 and that is if it has all the options and average miles. he will be given about 9000 by a dealer if he trades it in. the car has a wholesale value of 11075 and that is what you should pay from an individual. heck, you can have my 2000 svt with 17000 miles for 14500. dont pay to much. eek offer him 11000 and call him in a couple of weeks. i promise you, he will still have it. wink