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#699430 07/23/03 01:59 PM
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I currently run 3 differnet computers with differnet setups.

Computer 1: dual p3 1.2Ghz processors, custom built video card (dual geforce 2 processors with 256 megs of ram), 1 gig of 133 ram. Used mostly for video editing and cad.

Computer 2: Amd 2800+, Radeon 9800pro video card with 256 megs of ram 8x support, asus A7N8X Deluxe motherboard, 3 gigs of 400mhz DDR ram, turtle beach thx audio card. This computer is used mostly for gaming and graphics programs, ie 3d studio max, photoshop, quark, bryce, maya, indesign, ect. This computer has been bench marked and is faster then just about any dual p3 p4 computer on the market. The greatest part was the fact that I got all the I built the computer for under 1300 bucks, minus an monitor and speakers.

Computer 3: Mac G5, strictly my work computer, all graphics computer, no games, This computer is just raw power, and thank God I didnt have to buy it, cause they cost to much.

So really the computer is us to you. If you are really considering a computer for multi tasking and Cad I would recomend a dual processor p3. They usually cost less and have more porcessing power. As for a single AMD vs a single P4, I would take the AMD hands down even is they cost the same. They P4 may have a higher processing speed but the AMD doesnt have the same bottle neck in the design as the intel. Simply put, the amd runs smoother, multi tasks better , has less fault errors, and responds to upgrades better then the p4, is memory...buy as much memory as you can afford.

Just a side note, if you do go with the P4 make sure to buy RDram. The P4 runs much better with this type of memory and runs a higher bench mark with it over the DDr ram. Sure the DDr rams is cheaper, but remember you get what you pay for.

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From personal experience, I've found that AMDs, while costing less, tend to die much more frequently. We constantly have customer's computers that come in dead with AMD CPUs and the motherboards don't even POST at all. We rarely get P4s in here. Just from personal experience...

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Originally posted by Lance Kinley:
All it takes is a cpu fan failure and the AMD is toast, they run so very hot. Intel cpu's have a thermal shutdown feature that AMD has not duplicated yet. That puts me in the Intel camp.

That aside, the AMD is the bigger bang for buck.

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my cpu fan failed, on my 2000, and it only ran up to 120... which i hear is somewhat normal for people...

but... its now at a nice toasty 44

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Well, the AMD processors use what's called "nano impulse" technology. Basically they use a series of inverted digital cosine waves, amplified through a boxite capactior to achieve a harmonic resonance which permits symbiotic encoding. Now symbiotic encoding is a patented coding lanquage developed by Dr. Tam Bourine in 1988 which is unique in that is allows for infinte pathways, and inputs. This "infinity architecture" is a basis for many AMD powered devices.

The Intel system uses a rival architecture employing massively parallel parking biotics. This setup allows Intel to use a prescient chip design which can predict up to 74 dimensional vectors, allowing over 165,000 different distinct fonticular modects. In layman terms the Intel chip can "predict" an action and prepare a reaction based on resonating harmonics (similar to AMD's but inverted 360 degrees). This lends to a chip design that in theory is capable of over 1 gigatwat sensitivity.


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Originally posted by WannaBe-SVT:


my cpu fan failed, on my 2000, and it only ran up to 120... which i hear is somewhat normal for people...

but... its now at a nice toasty 44




Is that 44 degrees? How did you get it that cold? The coolest I've ever gotten was 76.


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Originally posted by ScarContour:
I have always been an Intel fan personally. I like the rock solid stability often offered by intel.




I like the paychecks they give me.


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That's 44 Degrees C. 111 degrees F.

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Originally posted by WannaBe-SVT:
Originally posted by Lance Kinley:
All it takes is a cpu fan failure and the AMD is toast, they run so very hot. Intel cpu's have a thermal shutdown feature that AMD has not duplicated yet. That puts me in the Intel camp.

That aside, the AMD is the bigger bang for buck.

-Lance




my cpu fan failed, on my 2000, and it only ran up to 120... which i hear is somewhat normal for people...

but... its now at a nice toasty 44





I have 2 dead athlon XP's from running too hot... yeah I was overclocking but hey I got RMA numbers so all is good.


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#699438 07/24/03 02:14 AM
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Originally posted by Scoobasteve:
Computer 3: Mac G5, strictly my work computer, all graphics computer, no games, This computer is just raw power, and thank God I didnt have to buy it, cause they cost to much.




Huh. How'd they pull that one off? I thought the G5's weren't shipping until August?

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Ah the joy of bing the head of one of the largest graphic/flexographic printing house in the Detroit Area . We recieved 3 G5 puters the first of the month as one of Mac's test areas. They are leaps and bounds above the G3 or even the G4.

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