As far as seeing these "examples"...I understand that there's a "shop" car thats supposed to have all these goodies on it, & nyceboi's car(there were pics @ 1st, but now w/ the kits being near completion, there haven't been any updated pics)...seems to me its almost as if it were top-secret, because noone wants their ideas stolen before their own car is on the road. People trusted you enough to give you deposits, now there's progress & if you are keeping your own sh!t secret, @ least email or PM the guys w/ deposits pics (if you don't want them to be broadcast on the internet). But don't expect any new business. I mean c'mon Kaotic, if you guys have a shop car, market it & sell your kits & then you won't have to b!tch about the money...I could be way off base here, but these are my thoughts, I apologize if I'm wrong...$.02

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