I actually think both posts were pretty damn funny. As far as kicker goes, I don't think their quality has gone down so much but the problem is that the competition's quality has gone way up and they have been unable to match them so now they are a bit inferior. Yes, the solobarics are nice subs, but being their top of the line sub, lets compare it to say JL's top of the line, NO COMPARISON!!! while I'm on the topice of Jl audio, lets compare some of their other subs. 10 w1 versus kicker comp. hands down jl. 10w3 version 1 versus kicker vr. You can make an argument here but I personally have 2 10w3's and I think they would wipe the floor with vr's. There are so many other companies you can compare them to and they'll fall short time and time again but I'm tired of typing and just wanted to make a quick point.


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