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Just to reitterate... according the copyright laws you can copy a CD or a complimation for your own use... but can't make a profit off of it. What about DJs.. they are using this to their advantage.. they can make complimations for things very easily now... it isn't like artists are losing money off of this.. well they are.. but it is minute.. you know how much money they have.. babies
The bands I support that i know don't have the kind of money they deserve (smaller no named bands) I buy their labels and support them at shows.. but the big wigs of the music industry.. BURN AWAY!
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does anyone think that if they stopped allowing the burning of cd's that the concert ticket prices will go down?
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File sharing can be such a good thing if the music industry learns how to use it properly. I would hate to see it go under just because someone is greedy.
IMHO, I think all artists should make there money from concerts and apparel and such. The music should be just a way for potential buyers to gain intrest in them.
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Originally posted by RogerB:
Originally posted by Roz 1999 SVT-C:
Yea, I can understand how some artisit can see there music as art,and how Kazaa may be taking away the artists right to distribute his music, but the majority are just in it for the money...
Vive l'America!
Even if "artistically" vapid, it is still the artist's right (unless expressly waived) to maintain control over their intellectual as well as physical property.
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..Also what are they going to have to go after next, people recording the super bowl, World Series, how about VHS tapes or DVD's,
All perfectly legal, with caveats. See my previous post.
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Or if people what to burn Software,
Again, legal under some circumstances. (as a backup, for your own use, as long as you have purchased the actual software)
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See they can't just single one medium out, our people can cry fowl...
They're not singling out one medium. They're finally getting to this train wreck. The others have been pursued for a long time now, and so don't make a big news story.
And just who are these socialist free-lovers you refer to as "our people?"
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See i personaly only use Kazza to get hard to find music and live shiot you cant find any where else.
Which is fine as long as the artist has granted permission. Many new artists are getting exposure on the internet that they would never have gotten via the traditional "record company" methods.
on the Our people part i ment OR , sorry!!
But on everything else, yes you are right...there are exceptions to every rule when it comes to copy rigths, but what gets me, form the research i ahve done, the only people they go after duing the VHS/cd or software craz were people with thousands of pirate videos not the small people that give one to friends or family...And the Music industry is talking about going after everyone, including the people that make copies for freinds and family.....it just seems kinda wrong to me that they would single people out like that....almost like there making the stereo type that music burners are worse than other type of copywriteres.....True I guess they have to go after the Media the have the most control of, but from the info i have been told/ read it just seems that way.
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Originally posted by Kevdogg410:
but the big wigs of the music industry.. BURN AWAY!
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Originally posted by RogerB:
Originally posted by contour6:
hey i know this has nothing to with cars(contour), but i was wondering how everybody or anybody feels about what they are going to be doing to the people with it and the other "shared folder" websites?????? 
to me it sucks  but i can feel how the music people would feel 
just trying to see how yall feel about it or get some opinions 
We are a capitalist society (thank God) and these things are often stolen property. It is the same as if I came to your house, stole things from it, and then took them to a big clearinghouse where we all "just shared the love, man."
Put yourself in the artists' place. What if you sweat and toiled over a novel, only to have it stolen and given away for free? There goes your ticket out of the cubicle forest.
Or if you wrote a great piece of software, but before you could market it, somebody copied it and turned it into "freeware."
Sure, the "big, bad" (  ) record companies probably have the most to gain or lose, but when they lose, it gets passed on to the artist.
First of all Artist do not make much off of album sales. They make there money off of concerts and the like. So when people download a song and like, they might go to the concert, so it can be useful to the artist. The problem is the cost of CD's hasn't come down. And the answer is not Apple's music downloading idea. I am not gonna pay 99 cents per song. If I did that I'd have to pay nearly $3,000. I think the real problem here is the inflexibility if the music industry. They want it there way or no way. All the people who run the industry just want the money. They don't see that music is more then just a way of making money.
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Just to let you know. The money from cd and cassette tapes sales go directly to the record company, because they paid out all the money to make it. The band gets the money from touring and is paid by the record company for signing with them. The record companies are losing lots of money right now. Last year I believe 30 bands had albums released and only 5 of those albums they broke even on. IMHO the record companies need to change the way the do bussiness. i.e the ridiculous amounts of money they pay studios, producers, excec's etc.... If it wasn't for file sharing programs some groups would never have become known! I've had friends send me stuff from bands that I've never herd of (I liked it), passed it on to others to hear and voila they become known and someone grabs them.. So to the record co's I say do what everyone else it doing restucture to meet the needs of today's society! Suing everyone will only kill themselves! Can you say bankrupt! 
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A quick question becaise I seem to be out of the loop. Is this only going to after people that use Kazaa and have a "Shared Folder" where their music downloads to and is shared online? There are serveral other file sharing programs out there. For instance, eMule which I live by. Will the FIAA catch onto these programs also or have they already?
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That why i find the whoel thing humerous. No matter what they do they will always be a step behind technology. There is no way in hell they will ever stop file sharing, be it through peer to peer sharing, or server to client sharing. They dont have a clue.
And to answer your question, I believe they are just going after those who share files, not those who download them. I am probably wrong but it would be pretty hard for them to catch people who are downloading and not sharing.
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I have over 20 gig's of mp3's alone I have picked up over the years. About half of them are ripped from CD's I bought. I think the biggest problem is the people that really abuse the system, those who view mp3's (and pirated movies) as a way to never pay for this stuff again. If I like songs from an artist I will buy their CD, it's that simple. If it's not very good, I won't. I don't like Apple's idea because it's still relying on compression which lowers the sound quality. Not to mention unless you burn it, you won't have a hard copy of it.
I don't buy into that starving artist BS. Just watch an episode of MTV Cribs and tell me the artists are suffering when they have only 2 mercedes and 10 plasma TV's......right.
I buy CD's, I buy DVD's, I buy concert tickets, I buy concert merchandise, I think the RIAA can go f**k themselves.
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