Quote: Originally posted by BIBLE, GOD'S WORD: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Leviticus 18:22 (KJV): "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind it is abomination."
Sounds pretty obvious. Then let's add the rest around it shall we?
How many times do I have to tell you what the real translation of this is?
Direct from Hebrew: "And with a male thou shalt not lie down in beds of a woman; it is an abomination."
That can also be interpreted that as meaning "Do not sleep with a man as it were with a woman". As in, do not lie to oneself regarding your sexual orientation, for to deny yourself is to deny your Creator.
Quote: I CHALLENGE EVERYONE HERE TO READ THE WHOLE BIBLE, AND ACTUALLY TAKE IT IN, YOU'LL SEE IF YOU SEARCH HIS WORD. KNOCK AND THE DOOR WILL BE OPENED.
Been there, done that. Could probably quote it backwards in my sleep. Can do it in Hebrew too if you prefer. Nope, not a Jew, just a biblical scholar.
Quote: Don't make me post all of them again. Regardless of what people want to believe, homosexuality is a sin, it says so in the verses that I posted.
And I've posted an equal number of verses saying differently.
What's your point?
Quote: Look into the history of ROME. Look into the history of Sodom. Then look at the history of the United States
You should look into the history of Rome yourself. You know what probably the single biggest reason of it's downfall was?
I'll give you a clue, it wasn't homosexuality.
It was Christianity. They got religion.
Quote: Jato, these verses were not written just for the Jews of the day, or for the time period they were living in. God's word is GOD'S WORD, regardless of time.
Oh really?
Then why has "GOD'S WORD" changed so much every single time the Bible has been translated?
And I don't mean just some words changing. I mean entire passages being changed in such a way as to reflect the time of the writing.
I don't know how long it will take you to understand that your Bible is not God's Word. The KJV and NIV are about as close to the original Bible as Jack and the Beanstalk.
Quote some passages in Hebrew and we'll be closer to the real Word and we can have a real theological discussion. But I'll tell you now, you'll have a real hard time finding any verses to support your argument in a old Hebrew Bible.
Quote: And to end all this, what better book would Satan have to use against Christians than the Holy word of God? Exactly. Satan uses everything he can to twist God's words.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
As time passed, Man's own self-interest -- his own evil influences -- created changes in the Bible. The changes that you read now, and quote as the Word of God.
They are not the Word of God. They are the Word of God, Spoken by Man and influenced by Satan and Evil. Those words now breed misunderstanding, judgement, and even hate amongst even like-minded Christians.
