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I can speak on how or why someone is gay. All I can speak on are the actions. If you don't believe you have a choice as to whether you want to act on your actraction for someone else then that's you.





So, being guy isn't bad, but acting upon it is?

Just to clarify.

So why is it bad?

Maybe because it doesn't result in reproduction?

I have sex all the time that doesn't result in reproduction. I go through a lot of trouble to try to ensure that. So am I "unnatural" and "abnormal" in the same way as a gay man? I know there are religious people who believe that sex without the intent of reproduction is wrong... I just personally believe that's a bit overkill.

Or maybe it's because it can't result in reproduction?

So if my wife were to become sterile, I should leave her or cheat on her so that I can run out and spread my seed and create some more lambs for God's flock?


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Originally posted by sigma:

So, being guy isn't bad, but acting upon it is?

Just to clarify.

So why is it bad?

Maybe because it doesn't result in reproduction?

I have sex all the time that doesn't result in reproduction. I go through a lot of trouble to try to ensure that. So am I "unnatural" and "abnormal" in the same way as a gay man? I know there are religious people who believe that sex without the intent of reproduction is wrong... I just personally believe that's a bit overkill.

Or maybe it's because it can't result in reproduction?

So if my wife were to become sterile, I should leave her or cheat on her so that I can run out and spread my seed and create some more lambs for God's flock?





We have the winner ladies and gentlemen.

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I think I'll just shut up and let sigma run with things. You're doing a much better job distilling this down to some very poignant questions than I am...


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Jato, mind if I pull up a chair next to ya and watch this?


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Originally posted by SKWAT:
"Civilization, society, and marriage have evolved, and it has been determined that marriage between a man and a woman is the best way to create a family, and raise children."

-I think that quote by Rush sum it up well.




What if you don't plan to have kids. Should you be banned from getting married?


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yes...and apparently no nookie


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But what if same-sex Marrage is legalized across the states.. then its just going to move on to the next phase.. Adopting children. Now how does everybody feel about THAT. Can you imagine a gay male couple adopting a boy? Can you imagine how messed up and confused that kid is going to be? Not to mention the torture he's going to be put through by his peers.


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Originally posted by CarpePoon:
But what if same-sex Marrage is legalized across the states.. then its just going to move on to the next phase.. Adopting children. Now how does everybody feel about THAT. Can you imagine a gay male couple adopting a boy? Can you imagine how messed up and confused that kid is going to be? Not to mention the torture he's going to be put through by his peers.




I'd prefer that a kid had two loving same sex parents than NONE at all.
Even ONE parent is better than none at all.


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Originally posted by CarpePoon:
Can you imagine how messed up and confused that kid is going to be?



Or he could turn out perfectly normal.


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Now this is turning in to foolishness. If this is the type of responses I can expect, this will be my last post.

Bishop, why do you keep missing the point here? I'm not talking about a straight or gay person. I'm talking about the attraction. Period. Whether they are gay or straight makes no difference. It's not the point.

Sigma, What does having to be a guy have to do with who you are attracted to? Again, missed the point. I was never talking about your ability to reproduce either. I was speaking in general. A male and a female can reproduce. A male and a male or female and a female cannot. Period. That's it.

Ban from having kids? What does that have to do with this discussion? One's personal decision not to have kids has absolutely nothing to do with being gay but obviously if you are, you can't reproduce "naturally" or should I say "normally".

Look, bottom line is this right or wrong is not for me to decide nor judge. That's between that person and God. So long as it has no effect on me it's on them.

Next people will want to have relationships with cats or dogs or monkeys on this same level. Obviously, nothing wrong with that because occurs naturally in nature.







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